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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam

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Try-hard? At what?
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Basically this?

She is class president-san. Everyone has their tasks for the culture festival?
 

Trancos

Member
The thing with Hiliary is, she comes across as a try hard where's a Trump doesn't even want the damn nomination and he's still clowning the whole thing

and LOL at Trump doesn't want the nomination.


On another topic, I totally expect Sanders to win Indiana but benchmark politics is showing Hillary ahead, and the polls too. I still think he manage to win it by a small to moderate margin.
 

Iolo

Member
Sanders spends $166 million, consultant windfall of tens of millions

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0170ce-0cf2-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.html

By the end of March, the self-described democratic socialist senator from Vermont had spent nearly $166 million on his campaign — more than any other 2016 presidential contender, including rival Hillary Clinton. More than $91 million went to a small group of admakers and media buyers who produced a swarm of commercials and placed them on television, radio and online, according to a Washington Post analysis of Federal Election Commission reports.

While the vast majority of that money was passed along to television stations and websites to pay for the advertising, millions in fees were kept by the companies, The Post calculated. While it is impossible to determine precisely how much the top consultants have earned, FEC filings indicate the top three media firms have reaped payments of seven figures.

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That has meant big payouts for the firm of senior strategist Tad Devine, which has produced the bulk of the campaign’s ads; Old Towne Media, a small media placement operation run by two of Devine’s longtime buyers; and Revolution Messaging, a digital firm led by veterans of President Obama’s 2008 campaign.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
btw, i'm open to hearing arguments for more open primaries.
I may seem set on my decision, but i'd like to hear some rational arguments for them.

But in the age of social media and internet collaboration, the possibility of cross party vote fuckery is higher than it has been.

That's not to say you should have to change your party affiliation in October, that's bullshit and wayyy too early. Feb 1st is OK and logical. Until the first votes are cast, it's difficult to know within a high degree of certainty if one race is decided. Technically I guess it's possible, if say for example Clinton was polling at 92% to win the first primary and so people switched the affiliation to Republican to fuck with them. But that's pretty rare, and not justification enough to push the registration change date back earlier.
 
So I just saw that TYT interview with that Australian guy that you guy were talking about a few days back.

Holy shit, that was embarrassing. Like legit embarrassing. I half expected that guy with glasses to just start pounding the table and yelling that the establishment can't keep getting away with this.
 
Well we're at the threshold in OT GAF where Trump says something incredibly sexist and people attack Hillary for responding.

christ

some of those comments are incredibly sexist I just don't think they know it
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
So I just saw that TYT interview with that Australian guy that you guy were talking about a few days back.

Holy shit, that was embarrassing. Like legit embarrassing. I half expected that guy with glasses to just start pounding the table and yelling that the establishment can't keep getting away with this.

He'll do that after California.
 

CCS

Banned
If I got a dollar for every time the phrase "I'm not sexist but" is uttered between now and the election, the earth would implode under the weight of all those bills.
 

Iolo

Member
Wait, why did he not put a cap on consulting fees? What the fuck.

No wonder Devine and Weaver have been pushing him to stay in the race! What a conflict of interest.

I think Weaver is a true believer. I doubt he had the apparatus set up to rake in the dough like Devine.

edit: basically.

The fees paid to Sanders’s media consultants far outstrip the salary earned by his campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, the senator’s former chief of staff, who had been in political retirement and was running a comic book shop in Virginia before joining the campaign. He has been paid about $103,000 through March, FEC filings show.
 

Trancos

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I think Weaver is a true believer. I doubt he had the apparatus set up to rake in the dough like Devine.

Weaver is a Bernie fundamentalist, he is willing to go much further than Bernie himself in this campaign. He doesn't care, he will burn all bridges if he thinks that will take Bernie closer to the nomination.
He was never hired by the DNC or made a career out of it, he has just worked for Bernie his whole life and owns a comic book store.
 
Lawyer who represented Saleh Abdsalam (mastermind behind French and Brussels terrorism):
"He has the intelligence of an empty ashtray, he is a vacuous abyss. He is a perfect example of the GTA (Grand Theft Auto, a video game) generation that thinks life is a video game. Him and his friends have a complete dislike for religion. I asked him if he has read the Quran and he said that he had read an interpretation of it on the Internet. For simple minds, this is perfect. The Internet, it is the maximum they can comprehend." - Sven Mary
http://www.liberation.fr/france/2016/04/26/sven-mary-comme-si-j-etais-abdeslam_1448793
 
The women in my life have gone through so much abuse that the BernieBros that talk to me in person about how Hillary would get 5% of the vote as a woman or that rape culture isn't a thing make me fucking mad. I should dress them down or give them a few blows to the head, but I don't want to reveal what these women have gone through.

"Anti-SJW" "liberal" young, straight, cis white men are terrible.
 

User1608

Banned
The women in my life have gone through so much abuse that the BernieBros that talk to me in person about how Hillary would get 5% of the vote as a woman or that rape culture isn't a thing make me fucking mad. I should dress them down or give them a few blows to the head, but I don't want to reveal what these women have gone through.

"Anti-SJW" "liberal" young, straight, cis white men are terrible.
I understand your pain. Same thing happened to me with someone; thought he was a good friend then he revealed his true nature in regards to Anita and Hillary, hell women in general when they came up. He seemed so progressive too. Had to stop myself when we resorted to shouting.
 

danm999

Member
There are connotations to the word try hard that don't really fit Clinton.

It generally means someone who isn't talented or successful that's sort of fronting.
 

OuterLimits

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Things getting nasty between Cruz and Kasich. Fiorina is telling Kasich to drop out. Kasich campaign manager Weaver is calling Cruz a liar. Cruz saying they never had a deal.

First Oregon poll of the year released today by Hoffman Group. Trump 43% Cruz 26% Kasich 17%
 

PBY

Banned
‏@Taniel Taniel Retweeted John DiStaso
! Gregg is an unbound delegate who'd endorsed Kasich. Now calls Trump "presumptive nominee" & rules out voting Cruz.

John DiStaso @jdistaso
.@WMUR9_Politics - Fmr Sen Gregg joins @johnboehner - calls @tedcruz 'person of little character' #nhpolitics #WMUR http://www.wmur.com/politics/gregg-blasts-cruz-as-demagogues-demagogue/39269308

“I would never vote for Ted Cruz,” the New Hampshire Republican said in an interview with WMUR.com. “I’d write in (U.S. House Speaker) Paul Ryan or someone before I’d vote for Ted Cruz.”

The Cruz campaign declined to comment when contacted by WMUR.com.

Gregg, who served for two terms in the Senate, retiring in 2010, said Cruz “is a person of little character. He’s a demagogue’s demagogue and he shouldn’t be trusted with the responsibilities of the office.”
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Things getting nasty between Cruz and Kasich. Fiorina is telling Kasich to drop out. Kasich campaign manager Weaver is calling Cruz a liar. Cruz saying they never had a deal.

First Oregon poll of the year released today by Hoffman Group. Trump 43% Cruz 26% Kasich 17%

Hold on a second... Another WEAVER? Seriously?
 
If another person says they're supporting Trump (who has flip-flopped on literally every issue other than misogyny and racial hatred and lies literally every third line) and Bernie (who has done a 180 on Israel in two months while spending 40% of each debate lying through his teeth about the 1994 crime bill) over Hillary because of "authenticity," I'm going fucking break some shit, omg.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
If another person says they're supporting Trump (who has flip-flopped on literally every issue other than misogyny and racial hatred and lies literally every third line) and Bernie (who has done a 180 on Israel in two months while spending 40% of each debate lying through his teeth about the 1994 crime bill) over Hillary because of "authenticity," I'm going fucking break some shit, omg.

I fear for the general election considering the level of Misogyny i'm already seeing.
She will very likely have such a huge majority of Women voters that I can't see her losing.
 
I understand your pain. Same thing happened to me with someone; thought he was a good friend then he revealed his true nature in regards to Anita and Hillary, hell women in general when they came up. He seemed so progressive too. Had to stop myself when we resorted to shouting.

They're progressive when it requires giving nothing they value up. This is a universal truth, most people, including most liberals really aren't as empathetic as they claim to be. Or their empathy has limits

Asking them to stand on the side that might threaten what they hold dear (their ability to go through life with a lot of "luck") its hard for them and they tend to revert to self-preservation.

That's why social pressure is sometimes good. It allows groups not in position to power to subvert this and give a kind of catch-22 type choice. Join us and lose you "relative" power and privilage or don't and be ostracized by the numerical majority
 

OuterLimits

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Some are saying that Trump has gotten such a significant amount of Pennsylvania unbound delegates that he can now afford to lose Indiana. CNN has Trump at 991 delegates. How many are left? I imagine Trump doesn't need much more than 50% of the remaining ones. Favorable states left for Trump. West Virginia, New Jersey, California, Oregon. Cruz states, Nebraska, Montana, South Dakota. Close: Indiana. Unknown. Washington, New Mexico
 
Note to internet people that hate Jews: No one fucking believes you are writing things because you care about Palestine when you defend "Hitler was pro-Zionism!" comments from Labour assholes.

Everyone sees right through it, mmkay. Go shove some rusty knives up your asshole.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The fact that the establishment is absolutely demolishing Cruz today makes me a happy man.

So, is the GOP FINALLY coming around to the idea of Trump being the nominee and, if so, are they doing this against Reince Priebus' will?
 
Jeremy Corbyn is, uhh, bad at his job:

Speaking on a day when he was forced to suspend his close ally Ken Livingstone, the embattled party boss said "much of this criticism ... comes from those who are nervous of the strength of the Labour party at a local level".

The disciplinary action came after Mr Livingstone used the memory of Adolf Hitler to defend Labour MP Naz Shah, who was suspended yesterday over a Facebook post from 2014 suggesting Israelis should be "relocated" to America.

Dozens of Labour MPs attacked the former London mayor, including John Mann, who called him a "Nazi apologist" to his face during an angry confrontation.

Speaking to the BBC, Mr Corbyn insisted there was "no crisis" in the Labour party.

He also appeared to suggest that pressure from pro-Corbyn Labour activists was the real reason for his MPs' comments about Mr Livingstone.

He said: "The party membership is the biggest it’s been in my lifetime, there’s 400,000 individual members, there’s 100,000 affiliated supporters, there are three million affiliated trade union members. It’s a very big organisation.

"I suspect that much of this criticism that you’re saying about ‘crisis in the party’ actually comes from those who are nervous of the strength of the Labour party at a local level."

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...eremy-corbyn-suggests-anti-semitism-row-being
 

Valhelm

contribute something
For a guy that wants to get money out of elections, he sure does support things that will make running a campaign even more expensive.

Well, Bernie's whole argument is the "$27 contributions" thing. He doesn't believe elections should involve no money, but that wealthy individuals should not be so disproportionately influential.
 

OuterLimits

Member
The fact that the establishment is absolutely demolishing Cruz today makes me a happy man.

So, is the GOP FINALLY coming around to the idea of Trump being the nominee and, if so, are they doing this against Reince Priebus' will?

I think they are pissed Cruz is basically stabbing Kasich in the back. He is saying an alliance never existed.

They're two factions now it appears. Lindsay Graham and Jeb Bush were still trashing Trump today and supporting Cruz. Others in the establishment seem to have accepted the realization of Trump most likely winning, and they despise Cruz more.

That is what I see anyway. You still have a NeverTrump coalition, but it's weakening.
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
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I understand your pain. Same thing happened to me with someone; thought he was a good friend then he revealed his true nature in regards to Anita and Hillary, hell women in general when they came up. He seemed so progressive too. Had to stop myself when we resorted to shouting.

I lost a really good friend recently, when suddenly him and his friend circle started posting ugly ugly shit about pregnant women. It really shocked me, I gave them a few days to come to their senses, and on the third day someone was talking about how gender roles during pregnancy are important because of how pregnant dogs behave, and I pretty much told the whole lot to fuck off.
 
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