RastaMentality
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@FrankLuntz: Hillary currently leads Trump by an average 10% nationwide.
But if Trump improves just 5%
https://t.co/T64Fkm5y3N https://t.co/GqluTrz0pu
So, he still loses.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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So, he still loses.
User 463088
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Seriously--I want Biden as VP. He's the best.
Veritigo_X
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Orbis Tabula
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I've been saying it for a while. Veep should he required watching. More people should listen to me.
BlastProcessing
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gutter_trash
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that's a bad ad.
It's just a bunch of Republicans piling on Trump.
Do you really want an ad of establishment Republicans one after other trashing Trump to be used as an affective attack ad?
This ad is a fail IMO
Officerrob
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The Republican obsession with thinking they can flip Pennsylvania never stops being hilarious
What the hell is this lol?
What's the gutter_trash plan, say nothing if Republicans try to pretend that they don't hate the man for the sake of the election?
What's failure is not attempting to use that division against him.
Beer Monkey
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Something from the younger supporters.
How are millennials supposed to get jobs in STEM fields when Bernie keeps teaching them bad math?
Oh good, just 10% huh.
Is he gonna sprout wings and fly too?
User 463088
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It's not a fail if your goal is to go after Country Club Republicans who actually liked someone like Mitt. Look, Queen is never getting (the vast majority) of Republicans. Period. Full stop. But, if there are 5-10% moderates who are GOP for fiscal reasons only, appealing to them by showing how Trump is a god damn dumpster fire isn't a bad strategy. Hearing the GOP establishment trash him gives them intellectual permission to not vote for him.
Voysa Reezun
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Right. She's not trying to convince angry Republicans and Independents who are really Republican, but not registered that way. She wants to scare away independents who might vote Republican, but who don't actually have a problem with the GOPe.
This is where I'm at. If I was Hillary id just ignore him, full stop.
I've admitted only watched a few episodes, but it was pretty stellar. I need to watch more while I have my HBO Now sub for GoT/SV
Gotta agree, yea. He's only a distraction now.
Ahaha
I find it funny how so many of the vital swing states (Florida, Nevada, Colorado) have massive Hispanic populations. Clinton could conceivably win Arizona for the Democrats this time around.
It's not for Democrats. It's for suburban Republicans.
Box of Kittens
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Tell me more, Frank. I want to know what happens if Trump improves on his polling by 20 points. What does the map look like if every single vote is for Trump?
NihonTiger90
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As an Ohio resident... holy shit, you can't lose Delaware County as a Republican. You just can't. It's supposed to be as impossible as losing my county because it is tailor made for Republicans.
How is he potentially going to lose it?
gutter_trash
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using Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush's words to attack Donald Trump in a Pro Hillary Clinton is lame and crappy. Who is this reaching out to anyway? Disaffected Republicans?
She is still in the Dem Primary race.
This pivoting using Right Wingers' own words against Trump before the Dem Primary season is over is bad optics among Left of Center or Left Wing Democrats
wait after the Primaries. This is bad optics. Especially when trying to win over Lefty Bernie supporters
eBay Huckster
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I'll settle for 10, personally.
and practically everyone's behind me in terms of chill, somehow
I want to know what the map looks like if we install a potty in each voting booth.
(#NoRedStatesOrBlueStatesJustBrownStates)
Or what happens if we turn it into a giant SplatFest map?
(#TeamPatrick)
Atomic Playboy
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And he still found time to lead Parliament!
If Joe Biden doesn't end up Veep again, maybe he should consider a career as a funk musician. I would pay all the money to see that.
Polls show there is approximately 20% to 25% or moderate republicans who would vote for clinton over trump at the moment. Now, that number is going to tighten, but there is absolutely no reason they shouldn't make a play for the moderate republicans who can't stand trump.
As long as Hillary doesn't tack too far to the centre in grabbing those voters and misses out on the left wing voters who have supported her and Bernie so far, it makes the electoral math a hell of a lot easier for them with that cross over rate.
jack_package_200
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Was this posted?
Meet The Biggest Bernie Sanders Booster On The Internet
Fantasy novelist-turned-political writer H.A. Goodman has gone viral with his complete certainty Sanders will win.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ha-goodman-bernie-sanders-blogger_us_56c7734be4b0928f5a6bcabc
His articles are as much fantasy as his novels.
Meet The Biggest Bernie Sanders Booster On The Internet
Fantasy novelist-turned-political writer H.A. Goodman has gone viral with his complete certainty Sanders will win.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ha-goodman-bernie-sanders-blogger_us_56c7734be4b0928f5a6bcabc
His articles are as much fantasy as his novels.
He only gets mentioned when she hits him on guns or asked a question about him. She's been ignoring him for weeks now.
Basileus777
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Richard Burr is on the Trump bandwagon too.
Officerrob
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Some ask Luntz what the map looks like if Hillary improves by 5%
She could've ended it when she won NY and he stayed in. She could've ended it when she won 4/5 states last week and he stayed in. If she won IN, he would've stayed in. So why bother? Save money, start investing in swing states and focus on Trump instead and let Sanders spend his millions so he can net 4 delegates per primary.
Box of Kittens
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Reminds me of this LBJ ad. And I do think, broadly speaking, LBJ's strategy against Goldwater is worth emulating.
Yup. If he was going to see reason, it would've happened long before now. Meanwhile, there's a General to win.
BotoxAgent
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yup. Hillary would benefit from just ignoring him. He's just a nuisance at this point. He should get nothing because he deserves nothing.
Roland_Gunner
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HRC's social media is going at Trump 24x7. You wouldn't know there was still a primary going on to look at it.
Seems pretty reasonable to me when Clinton is the only viable alternative, even if you dislike her.
Disaffected Republicans, Independents, anyone who isn't sold on Trump. Floor-crossing to vote for Hillary? Probably negligible. Depressed voter turnout because the proto-fascist is their favored party's nominee? Could be appreciable.
And lol optics fearmongering over Sanders. He's done. Clinton's real opponent is the one she's prepping for.
RustyNails
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Thats risky. He will show up at the debate and have an hour for himself without Hillary there to defend herself.
RastaMentality
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If Hillary doesn't show up, there won't be a debate. That's how it worked on the R side too. They're not gonna have 2nd placers there talking to themselves.
How am I supposed to know what's going on here, there's no labels.
NYCmetsfan
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Cesare Borgia
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No one is going to give Bernie air time without Clinton there at this point. Absolutely no one.
Why would Trump pick a loser like Luntz? He fails at everything, Trump is all about winner. Winners love him and want to work for him, why would he pick a loser? Losers are losers and not winners. If they were winners they wouldn't be losers.
NYCmetsfan
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You act like it isn't going to be poligafers oftentimes leading to those locks.
You guys aren't the best behaved in those
*shrugs*
The debate would likely be cancelled. He might get a town hall, an interview, what have you. Same shit he's been doing and saying for months.
His bargaining power on policy exists now by cutting the primaries short. If he doesn't want to use it, he gets nothing. Well, he gets a stump at the DNC. Again. To say the same shit. Again.
I'd like to emphasize that this is in contrast with what I had typed here before on what to give and how on policy to appease him and his supporters. But I'm more and more of the mind that changes in policy wouldn't make the "Never" voters change to her unless they were bluffing, and the rational voters are still deciding between a candidate that's closer to them versus one that's farther away. The rational left will come around; The irrational ones are already lost.
I'm seeing very little benefits to appeasing to them rather than shifting to the center. Their intransigence made their bed.
They get nothing.
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