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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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Dominican Power
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The Republican Party has no one to blame but themselves for Trump being their nominee. They've been cultivating their base for a guy like Trump for years now.
Avon Barksdale
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Isn't Frank Luntz #NeverTrump?
Lol. At this map. Even if donald trump magically wins some states that typically go for the democrats he still has to defend some of the states the republican can potentially lose in this election because he is on their presidential ticket like Arizona, Gerogia, North Carolina, Utah and Mississippi. If Hilary wins at least two of these despite him winning 1 or 2 democratic states he still won't get to 270.
Honestly ew tbh
Veritigo_X
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I don't think he has publically said that. His tweets are mostly just relaying what he hears in his focus groups.
You got problems or have the best trolling poker face of all time
blackaroni
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benjipwns
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well i never
TheLostBigBoss
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Now that Trump has nomination, will there be an effort by the GOP to try and have people vote Bernie to try and create a more "close" race, that they think will create a more toxic environment for the party?
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Yellowtail
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Not sure this required a poll but...
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/05/04/survey-lgbt-voters-back-clinton-over-trump-by-4-1-margin/As the nominees for the 2016 presidential election has become more clear, a new survey finds LGBT voters support Hillary Clinton for president over Donald Trump by a 4-1 margin.
The New York-based Whitman Insight Strategies made the findings public on Wednesday as a result of nationwide survey it conducted of 338 likely voters who identified as LGBT. According to the survey, 84 percent of likely LGBT voters back Clinton, compared to the 16 percent who support Trump, a significant margin showing more than 4 in 5 LGBT voters would vote for the former secretary of state.
That shows greater support for the Democratic candidate in 2016 among LGBT voters than exit polls showed among gay, lesbian and bisexual voters in 2012. At the time, exit polls revealed President Obama won 76 percent of the LGBT vote, compared to the 16 percent won by then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.
The poll finds that LGBT voters are more engaged with the current presidential contest than any other voting population this election cycle. Nearly three in five LGBT voters say they are following this election very closely, a number that outmatches all other major subgroups.
User 85168
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Carrie Johnson ‏@johnson_carrie 1h1 hour ago
Carrie Johnson Retweeted Tom Fitton
Clinton aides to be deposed in civil lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch. Judge has not yet decided on Clinton herself.
ANY DAY NOW
Carrie Johnson Retweeted Tom Fitton
Clinton aides to be deposed in civil lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch. Judge has not yet decided on Clinton herself.
ANY DAY NOW
Tranqueris
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I wonder if there's any chance that people who are leaning towards Bernie during the next closed primaries will completely turn against him to signal that he should get out. One can hope..
gutter_trash
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if anyone watched Morning Joe; Trump was saying nice things about Sanders and ''he has been treated unfairly by the Democratic Party''
Trump agent of Chaos
Trump agent of Chaos
User 463088
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Yassss my people, yaaassssss.
Jesus christ, how horrifying.
Those fuckholes are still in existence?? Christ above I thought we finally got rid of them...
NYCmetsfan
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One of my biggest pet peeves on gafs are "can someone explain ____ to me"
Learn to google and use google news/wikipedia.
And I hate the responses that are often never in good faith and present the respondant's opinion rather than the actual facts
Learn to google and use google news/wikipedia.
And I hate the responses that are often never in good faith and present the respondant's opinion rather than the actual facts
aspiegamer
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Oh thank god. Woke up from a nap and CNN is here for me not in any way pretending Sanders still exists. They want the GE to start. Apparently (almost) the entire media does.
Michigan feels like the most hilarious attempted grab to me. The Flint crisis I'd think would spark record Democratic turnout and especially minority turnout.
CNN's Clinton+13 poll is surely an outlier, but is equally as hilarious as the Rasmussen which is killing the RCP average right now to "just" Clinton+6.5. What's the approximate target for a decent shot at taking back the House? +8?
Michigan feels like the most hilarious attempted grab to me. The Flint crisis I'd think would spark record Democratic turnout and especially minority turnout.
CNN's Clinton+13 poll is surely an outlier, but is equally as hilarious as the Rasmussen which is killing the RCP average right now to "just" Clinton+6.5. What's the approximate target for a decent shot at taking back the House? +8?
RustyNails
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How can an attack group like that even get an air time at a court. Ridiculous.
I think it's +9, which should be doable against Trump. There's whole avenues of attack that haven't even been explored yet, plus the Trump university lawsuit has been allowed to go forward and that should be hilarious.
This would be obvious to anyone who reads PoliGAF.
eBay Huckster
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it's actually +7 (iirc someone - might've been Aaron - posted images in either this thread or OT4 showing the number of House districts "won" with a certain margin above Obama 2012 and +6 and above would get Clinton a majority), and I'm feeling good about Clinton's margin being above that
I thought it was more than that. She can definitely beat +7 against Trump, it's just a matter of if the support is spread out enough.
b-dubs is optimistic Aaron 2.0. Don't think I have ever seen you Diablos or panic. You have certainly had the most fun this election season with Trump.
User 463088
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The idea of Trump being in the general makes me a little nervous, I definitely don't like the idea of an insane man being so close to the presidency, but so far there's been no real need to panic. Everything's gone exactly according to the plan. The single hiccup all season was Michigan. My only regret is that I sold my Trump shares too early and lost out on $20.
eBay Huckster
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It's definitely +7, per at least one Aaron post (I'm trying to find the one with the actual images but lol search)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202040603&postcount=5756
We prefer queens. It is known.
User 463088
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You know....if it weren't for the body shaming, bottom shaming, fem shaming, and often subtle racism, our people really would be the best.
Also, this is the saddest, most Ohio podium thing ever. Shit looks like it was filmed in my basement or something.
Werk.
After Trump dropped out of the last GOP debate Cruz was offered 1 on 1 interview or town hall meeting. He declined.
Aaron Strife
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It was probably me yeah.
It would be +7 in 2012, +9 in 2014 - but with the new maps of Florida and Virginia factored in (which essentially gives Democrats three free seats) it becomes around +6 for both years. Of course, that's assuming an even distribution among every seat.
One thing to keep in mind though - Obama beat Romney by 4 points, but Democrats only beat the Republicans by 1 point in the generic ballot, so those votes don't necessarily track together.
The good news is the districts that would swing are mostly in blue states, so it's not like Democrats are competing in too-hostile territory. Sabato said if Hillary improved on Obama's margin by just three points, she would win in an extra 30 districts, and all but two of them are in blue states (the two red state ones are in Arizona and Texas). Furthermore when Obama won 209 districts, Democrats held 201 seats, so there's not too much of a divergence there - it can be reasonably assumed that Republicans will end up holding more districts than what Trump wins, but it'll be hard for Republicans to hold down all these Hillary districts.
benjipwns
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They aren't all that bad as they're ideological more than purely partisan. They went after Cheney's Energy Task Force and the Jack Abramoff meetings for example during the Bush Administration.
I like having them to go with CREW, GAP and POGO among others. More the merrier.
Though I know there's a lot of FOIA and civil rights suits hate around these parts.
AntraxSuicide
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Yeah, Bernie is done. He literally can't lose a single contest from here on out (this is without mentioning margins), and he'll definitely drop a few more. So he's done. And thankfully, the Queen gets this since she spent nearly nothing in IN and she's in full anti-Trump mode. She's got her game face on now. Let the old man lose a state, bow out gracefully (I hope), then move on. Either way, move on.
I'm the same way. Every Diablos post I see can never respond to my questions:
1) Which Obama 2012 states can Trump flip?
2) Which demos can Trump overperform Romney in, given that Romney did insane white numbers and expected minority numbers?
Those 2 questions keep me feeling great about President Clinton.
User 463088
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Ugh.
Kasich.
UGH.
Kasich.
UGH.
So I decide to check out Hillaryis44 for the first time in years, thinking that they must be elated that Clinton is likely going to be the next president. But the site seems to only care about Donald Trump and even seems to resent Clinton for not throwing Obama in jail or something. It's incredible. Hillaryis44 is so anti-Obama that they're now anti-Hillary.
RastaMentality
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Obama being a black man probably had a lot to do with the margin being smaller.Just a reminder that Obama "only" won 75% of the LGBT vote.
There was also an article about how we haven't even heard 60-70% of the shit the Clinton machine has on trump which could or could not be true.
User 463088
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"No one has ever done more with less...." says Kasich about his campaign.
Don't sell yourself short. I'm pretty sure Carly is way, way less than you are.
Don't sell yourself short. I'm pretty sure Carly is way, way less than you are.
Considering the kind of shit they managed to dig up on Obama, and Trumps own long career in real estate, this wouldn't shock me at all.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Hillaryis44 was supposedly created by some strange troll that never even supported Clinton.
Veritigo_X
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I'm pretty sure the person who set up that site wasn't a Hillary supporter to begin with. They were just trolling.
User 463088
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Kasich being more generous to the volunteers (both of them) who supported him way more than Bernie has ever been.
User 463088
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Kasich is making Ohio look worse than usual. I mean, I don't know how, but he's doing it.
Sad.
Sad.
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