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PoliGAF 2016 |OT6| Delete your accounts

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Iolo

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TheLostBigBoss said:
because the predictions are craaaaaaaaazy!

also I don't think it's a stretch to say the DNC would like to prevent as much complaining by Sanders as possible, and holding off the presumptive nominee shit from the media till California closes would at least be a step in that direction.
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Nah. Hillary has a speech scheduled for prime time on Tuesday in which she will assume the mantle of presumptive nominee (assuming Bernie doesn't render her nonviable in NJ, which is a distinct possibility!!!!). They are not going to hold off any longer.
 
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RustyNails

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Iolo said:
Well yes, I agree it matters overall if she wins. But if she loses CA, it doesn't matter when they declare her the nominee—whether before or afterward, the narrative will be the same: she can't close the deal. Remember when they said that over and over about Obama?

Also looking forward to a slew of endorsements starting Wednesday.
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Naw. The media will have a little giggle about "hillary is a wounded candidate!!" untill the following sunday talk shows are done. Then it's all aboard the DNC train where they will find a spot even for the noisiest of the noisy Sanders crowd (preferably in the engine room). The media will call out Bernie and say he's being a sore loser. I am kinda confident about it.

Remember Bams lost California and Hillary was much closer than Bernie. But I guess the only difference is Hillary is a good Democratic Party soldier and she fell in line. Sanders is more of a militia leader aligned with the Party and we dont know what he will do.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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"I made a lot of money with Gaddafi" these are things presidential candidates say, I guess?

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ampere

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Trump thinks Muslims shouldn't be able to be judges in cases with him either.

https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/status/739436549842964481

(Because he's an insane racist)
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Step 1: Make broad statements condemning people of a certain race or religion
Step 2: Declare anyone who is of that race or religion unfairly biased against you and disallowed from holding judicial positions
Step 3: Full legal immunity

Donnie is just brilliant. He's got this who law thing figured out

royalan said:
I wonder what explains the tightening poll numbers though.
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The margin probably is tightening. Just probably not as much as the Field Poll indicates, because it's demographic sampling seems a bit off
 
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Spoiled Milk

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sphagnum said:
I mis-remembered your post then (which, as I went back to check, was "I disagree with US policy because I don't care about promoting human rights and democracy").
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That's still wrong. I do care, I just think that takes a backseat sometimes to other considerations. In the case of China, I see it as a mistake to position yourself against what will definitely be the de facto leader of Asia in a few decades, economically and militarily. Just like with the infrastructure bank, we're going to be cut out of lucrative deals and we will find ourselves irrelevant in the future.

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I understand where that sentiment comes from - the way that "human rights" is often just used as an excuse for neocolonialism and economic imperialism, white man's burden, etc. And to be honest I don't think there's much of a real philosophical basis for the existence of human rights since that's reliant on there being some sort of objective value to human life, which there isn't, and which stems ultimately from religious thinking.
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Right, that's mostly how I feel. I think rights are gifted and guaranteed by the state, not granted by ethereal powers. And using the word "rights" for everything becomes problematic because it conflates really different things. If a right is something that is owed to every human being, I consider healthcare a right. I consider a national pension a right. I consider clean water a right. I consider bankruptcy protection a right. I consider welfare for the poor a right. So in the context of those rights, it's weird to also put things like criticism of the government in that bucket.

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But even though it may not be philosophically sound, I still support human rights due to the simple elegance of the golden rule, which is really all I can hold to in a world where we can't presume that other minds do exist (I know this is going off tangent into existentialism but it's the only way I can really explain my position).
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Right, so do I. Usually. I think.

sphagnum said:
I'll be honest, I don't know a whole ton about the Philippines. But I do know a whole ton about socialism, and I know that people on my side who usually are fine with trampling over human rights in the name of progress often end up making everything worse. Not coincidentally, it seems like the communists in the Philippines support Duterte, so once again I find myself disappointed.
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The situation in the Philipinnes is complicated and as other posters noted, it is understandable (even though it is distasteful) that Duterte was elected. So when I say I'm pro-Duterte, I mean that, given the other options and given the majority of his platform, I prefer his. And I can sit here and make a bunch of caveats like, yeah, Mad Max death squads are probably a bad idea, his history with talking about rape is pretty bad, he doesn't really have the temperament to be president, whatever, but ultimately I think he's best for the Philippines.

But that doesn't mean I'm a far left authoritarian. If we had a presidential candidate who proposed the things he proposes I really would be appalled... Because those don't make any sense here. But the United States isn't the Philippines. And so that's my point. I just don't care much for sitting around in the greatest country the world has ever seen, eating delicious, decadent food, with my $15/hr living wage, my clean water, and my amazing education system, telling everyone else in the world that my values are better than their's.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I want a reporter to simply ask Trump, "So if you believe a Mexican or a Muslim judge would be biased against a white person, do you believe a white judge would be biased against a black/Hispanic/Muslim in a court case?"
 
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RustyNails

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Plinko said:
I want a reporter to simply ask Trump, "So if you believe a Mexican or a Muslim judge would be biased against a white person, do you believe a white judge would be biased against a black/Hispanic/Muslim in a court case?"
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No way. That gives him an easy out.
 
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Paskil

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What are the chances that Trump's campaign gets so bad that he's forced to suspend or take a temporary leave from the trail? Maybe the Republican leadership takes him to some type of retreat where they try to...do something, lol.
 
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Crayons

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Paskil said:
What are the chances that Trump's campaign gets so bad that he's forced to suspend or take a temporary leave from the trail? Maybe the Republican leadership takes him to some type of retreat where they try to...do something, lol.
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Trump is surrounded by yes men. He'll do what he wants and no one will be able to convince him otherwise.
 
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Kite

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Bowdz said:
Fucking lowlife Bernie just keeps using GOP talking points today. He hit her on the Clinton Foundation saying it was a conflict of interest and that both Clinton and Trump are too eager to go to war. Dude, it's over. Please try not to shit the bed on the way out.
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lol Don't you know that Bernie is against charities? Back in 81 he was invited to speak at a United Way fundraiser, accepted and said this:
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/09/19/nyregion/notes-on-people-some-disunity-along-the-united-way.html
''I don't believe in charities,'' said Mayor Sanders, bringing a shocked silence to a packed hotel banquet room. The Mayor, who is a Socialist, went on to question the ''fundamental concepts on which charities are based'' and contended that government, rather than charity organizations, should take over responsibilit y for social programs.
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lolol the Clinton Foundation has done more good than he could ever dream of.
 
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Trouble

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

Blitzer asked Trump his opinion on Brexit and Trump didn't know what that meant.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281820-trump-stumped-by-brexit-question

“And Brexit? Your position?” Wolff asked the billionaire.

“Huh?” Trump responded.

“Brexit,” Wolff reiterated.

“Hmm,” the real estate tycoon said.

“The Brits leaving the EU,” Wolff replied.

“Oh yeah, I think they should leave,” Trump said.
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Armaros

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Bowdz said:
Fucking lowlife Bernie just keeps using GOP talking points today. He hit her on the Clinton Foundation saying it was a conflict of interest and that both Clinton and Trump are too eager to go to war. Dude, it's over. Please try not to shit the bed on the way out.
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Hey I predicted weeks earlier that the Clinton foundation was next on the target list.

I was right.
 
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ampere

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nature boy said:
Guess he's off the shortlist:

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Damn. Yea there's no way Trump would campaign with someone who tells him he's wrong

Is there a "Gingrich won't be the VP nom" category on PredictIt? lol
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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Cuomo, come the fuck on.

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Blacklisting companies that are pro-BDS is dumb as fuck.

Except, that is not from the judge. That's a submission from the perp's father.
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I know that. It's just the perp is a horrible person surrounded by horrible people and is obviously going to rape again because he thinks rape is fine.

The judge meeting the rapist and his father should make it extremely clear that the rapist is a violent, disturbed person who should spend a lot of time in prison.

The judge is pretty pro-rape though based on what other people have said about prior cases so maybe the rapist being a proud rapist helped reduce his sentence?
 
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Iolo

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Trump just takes the very last thing you said about him and uses it to form his current opinion of you.

If Gingrich says something nice about him, Trump and he will be best buds again.

Holmes said:
Holy shit. I'm going to see Hillary Clinton later today.
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See if she can put a good word in with Obama so Y2Kev can get a WH tour
 
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