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This speech was written as if the last 8 months never happened.
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Are they hot?
TheLostBigBoss
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OMG
Trump is going to split Mexico from America like how the Children of the Forrest tried to seperated the south of Westerns at The Twins!!!
He's gonna split the continent!
nature boy
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Yah, Hannity talking points.
Officerrob
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Sean Hannity could have given this speech
balladofwindfishes
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I love how there's no middle of the road with Trump.
Off script he's coocoo nutso, but when on script, he's boring and lame. He's incapable of being on-script and interesting at the same time.
Off script he's coocoo nutso, but when on script, he's boring and lame. He's incapable of being on-script and interesting at the same time.
Dubbedinenglish
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Not only going to build a wall, but a moat!
User 463088
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Is he saying anything coherent? I'm working (SAD!) and I can't watch it....
aspiegamer
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Starting to think that Trump himself personally does not understand that The Foundation is not a direct Clinton bank account. He actually believes it. Also convinced Trump is only salty only the speeches is because he can't make money that easily.,
The media isn't going to call him out on any of this, either. You could spend days dissecting everything wrong with this speech.
The media isn't going to call him out on any of this, either. You could spend days dissecting everything wrong with this speech.
He goin Bugs Bunny on Mexico
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What crimes?
nature boy
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JHoNNy1OoO
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All of em, any of em. We all know the ones.
For real, dude has no chill or is dead
nature boy
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"highest taxed country in the world"
HAHA no, can't believe he isn't called on this bullshit.
HAHA no, can't believe he isn't called on this bullshit.
Officerrob
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How fucking long is this?
User 463088
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If I watched Hannity, I'd die a little inside....and I'm like 90% dead already. It's just hate and alcohol that keeps me going at this point...
thestopsign
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I can't look it up right now but I believe it was someone who worked on Michele Bachmann's campaign, not Michele herself.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/transcript-trump-speech-on-the-stakes-of-the-election-224654
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Says the guy who has them overseas
How does hillary do this? I thought companies choose to hire and where, not someone in the government
Makes it even longer now since they're literally clapping after he finishes every sentence. Even mid-sentence, there's a smattering a clapping occasionally.
nature boy
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Trump defending a massive infrastructure program?
Officerrob
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This is a C level speech, and an F level delivery
gutter_trash
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C for Crazy
F for Fuckery
aspiegamer
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lol, part of CNN's intro outright saying already that some of it was lies.
nature boy
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Quite an abrupt exit.
P.S.: Fact-checkers are going to have a field day with this speech.
P.S.: Fact-checkers are going to have a field day with this speech.
TheChocoboCadet
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USA! USA! USA!
I missed the Clinton speech yesterday. Please tell me the crowd didn't do that at the end of her speech.
I missed the Clinton speech yesterday. Please tell me the crowd didn't do that at the end of her speech.
i thought it was a strong strong strong exit.
"we're going to get to him being full of shit, but for now let's talk about how the GOP is happy with his speech"
NYCmetsfan
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is trading places the best 80s movie?
metalslimer
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lol I hope republicans liked that speech. If they truly thought that was good, then the threshold for them to keep Trump must be really low
Officerrob
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David Gergen, "If you don't look at the substance, that was one of his best speeches".
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Exactly. Cable news delivering.
The Lamonster
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haha I'm so glad I don't watch that garbage anymore. Dropped cable in 2010.
cartoon_soldier
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Yup, cable news will be all over fawning at that speech.
Hopefully someone challenges all the lies.
Hopefully someone challenges all the lies.
AntraxSuicide
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Hrm. Welp, there goes that theory.Unless it's a midwestern specific thing.
I think the point Kris and Val are trying to make is that the sheer "black and white" aspect of the argument isn't an accurate one - that there is way more nuance and the factors leading to racism are far more complicated than "I want to be a bigot, eff them all", That's the easy and lazy way (and frankly IMO, in here, is purely virtue signaling) to go about it; rather than trying to actually change those who can be first.
I think that there is a difference between prejudice born of ignorance, and prejudice born of hatred. I think most people are redeemable (unless you want to ignore the civil rights movement and gay marriage and the insane progress it has made in a single lifetime) ultimately; and I think the fundamental difference is that of optimism and pessimism, and everyone will always find the anecdata they are looking for to continue to prove their point.
First, let's lay out more groundwork for this. Are you talking about racists who tell stupid jokes or Klansmen? Because I'm talking about the latter (and I realize that they probably aren't a big feature in Seattle, but in Mississippi, they show up at least once a year to march somewhere). I simply find it disgusting to appeal to them.
And to my knowledge, the "they're not mean, just ignorant" is a myth. Some people simply hate black people, or Muslims, or LGBT people, etc... and they state that if asked in the company of white hetero folks. My own father-in-law is a Trump supporter who says his favorite song is "White Christmas" *wink wink*. These people exist; they're not dumb, and the real world isn't a Disney channel original movie where people are swayed once they see the real truth (or whatever).
I really don't know how you can look at something like that other thread in OT right now (with the TN guy putting up billboards that say "I Have a Dream" with Confederate flags or "Make America White Again") and say, "That guy's probably just not as knowledgeable about people of color. Shame on you for not appealing to him!"
See above for changing people. People that tell racist jokes? Maybe you could get through. But I think there's a sizable portion of our nation that simply doesn't like people of color or any other minorities, and you won't change them with a hug or a TV show.
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this is the most methodological speech against the Clinton
Says trump supporter on cnn
"methodological" I don't think he understands what this word means
Says trump supporter on cnn
"methodological" I don't think he understands what this word means
Officerrob
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Bernie Sanders needs to get off his ass
cartoon_soldier
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YEAAA. GO DEMS.
She shades everyone. Sam Bee really is the GOAT.
Officerrob
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CNN pointing out a lot of "factual inaccuracies" with Trump's speech
thestopsign
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YEAAA. GO DEMS.
My name is Jon and I am from a town named Yarmouth. His name is scaring me.
That's why I don't contribute much this thread moves so fast..
You can certainly find some white college professors with the same outlook as white construction workers.
I'm not saying it's entirely a conscious decision but it is at some point and the fact that you can find people from racist background not holding on to a racist outlook of life means that it's entirely possible and is an indictment of the rest of the racists.
It's kinda like rape culture, I'm from a culture and background that would tend to view women as exceptionally less capable than men and being merely tools men use and discard (and if you don't think that's how French society can view women...).
It's not how I view the situation and if someone with a similar background hold these views it's on them, not nebulous society problem.
To quote someone who died a little more than a year ago :
Girl : "Why did you burn your desk?"
You can certainly find some white college professors with the same outlook as white construction workers.
I'm not saying it's entirely a conscious decision but it is at some point and the fact that you can find people from racist background not holding on to a racist outlook of life means that it's entirely possible and is an indictment of the rest of the racists.
It's kinda like rape culture, I'm from a culture and background that would tend to view women as exceptionally less capable than men and being merely tools men use and discard (and if you don't think that's how French society can view women...).
It's not how I view the situation and if someone with a similar background hold these views it's on them, not nebulous society problem.
To quote someone who died a little more than a year ago :
Dude : "It's society's fault"
Girl : "Why did you burn your desk?"
AntraxSuicide
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It's now the hot narrative to eviscerate the guy, which then prompts a response from him (largely incoherent), which generates the next tear-down of his stupid comments.
I generally dislike how wimpy our media is (from the large groups anyway), but finally they're attacking when facts are simply proving Trump wrong.
Officerrob
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Katy Tur saying on MSNBC that she spoke with some big Republican donors, and that this speech changes nothing. They don't believe he can stop being a fuck-up
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Because all his outrages has already been taped, copied and edited for ads.
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