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[royalan]

oh come on, you guys know OT hates Pop-GAF talk, and PoliGAF has been copying that style more and more often lately

I disagree. Maybe in the community thread. But I've seen very intelligent, thoughtful posts get dismissed as "Oh, PoliGAF/HillaryGAF shit" in OT. Especially lately.

I don't want to continue this discussion too far. Just an observation I've had for minute.

 

[User1608]

https://twitter.com/BreeNewsome/status/751984982395092992



Holding my breath.

Video of deray being arrested - http://twitter.com/Walldo/status/751982776899870721/video/1

Hope he'll be okay...

 

[sc0la]

Hey, shit my dad says got a tv show out of it, worth a try.

1h
Alex Seitz-Wald‏ @aseitzwald
Sanders backer Ben Jealous: “Now let’s put in place a president that can actually deliver on this and lets make sure that SHE does."

Unity! Itshappening.gif

if I was that shirt I'd Ben Jealous too! wait that's not the joke. *rummages through notes*

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Seems like a solid strategy to arrest an extremely popular protester especially when you're arresting him for literally nothing.

 

[royalan]

Seems like a solid strategy to arrest an extremely popular protester especially when you're arresting him for literally nothing.

But what will happen?

All of nothing.

 

[studyguy]

Oh...my...what

https://www.facebook.com/ArizonaGOP/videos/10157132884255068/

They don't actually say anything Clinton will do, just ask people to imagine.
¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[Sibylus]

But what will happen?

All of nothing.

One hopes. Baton Rouge PD have looked aggressive all evening.

 

[Grief.exe]

They don't actually say anything Clinton will do, just ask people to imagine.
¯\_(&#12484_/¯

Apparently this wins elections for Conservatives.

 

[my name is ed]

Arresting Deray McKesson for doing nothing while live streaming sounds like the dumbest thing that PD can do right now

 

[User 463088]

You know what's absolutely, nails on a chalkboard driving me crazy? This idea that's popping up that things like the public option, debt free college, etc are all because Bernard graced the party with his presence.

No. These things have been part of Hillary's platform for a while. Is it petty that it bugs me? Yes. Probably. But, come on, she can't even get credit for anything in some people's eyes. It doesn't matter. I know. It helps with party unity. Whatever. I agree. It's still annoying when I see people on Twitter and Gaf and wherever laud the fact that she's essentially embracing her own freaking platform!

 

[neurosisxeno]

Apparently this wins elections for Conservatives.

I mean, Conservatives believe Angel's are real and Obama was born in Kenya. Imagination is their strongest trait.

You know what's absolutely, nails on a chalkboard driving me crazy? This idea that's popping up that things like the public option, debt free college, etc are all because Bernard graced the party with his presence.

No. These things have been part of Hillary's platform for a while. Is it petty that it bugs me? Yes. Probably. But, come on, she can't even get credit for anything in some people's eyes. It doesn't matter. I know. It helps with party unity. Whatever. I agree. It's still annoying when I see people on Twitter and Gaf and wherever laud the fact that she's essentially embracing her own freaking platform!

Hillary had backed away from a lot of her more liberal policy proposals, and I believe her 2008 run lacked all mention of things like Debt Free College and the Public Option. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Bernie forced her to really campaign on those issues, and embrace her desire for more Liberal policy.

 

[User 463088]

Her healthcare plan in 2008 did include a public option. Debt free college, no. That's probably, in part, because of the different economic climate among other things.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/10/12/clinton

There's her 2008 plan if you wanted to see it.

 

[thcsquad]

You know what's absolutely, nails on a chalkboard driving me crazy? This idea that's popping up that things like the public option, debt free college, etc are all because Bernard graced the party with his presence.

No. These things have been part of Hillary's platform for a while. Is it petty that it bugs me? Yes. Probably. But, come on, she can't even get credit for anything in some people's eyes. It doesn't matter. I know. It helps with party unity. Whatever. I agree. It's still annoying when I see people on Twitter and Gaf and wherever laud the fact that she's essentially embracing her own freaking platform!

What was worse was some news outlet mentioned language against police brutality against blacks as a win for the Sanders folks on the party platform. You know, the thing that's been part of her platform since before Bernie was running, that was a focal point of her very first public appearance of her campaign.

 

[User 463088]

What was worse was some news outlet mentioned language against police brutality against blacks as a win for the Sanders folks on the party platform. You know, the thing that's been part of her platform since before Bernie was running, that was a focal point of her very first public appearance of her campaign.

I saw that. Pissed me off. Considering, I think, her commitment to that issue is why she did so well among people of color. It's like a sleep in the face to the work she put in to understand the complexities of the issue. However, I'm sure she doesn't mind. It's not get style to get pissy like I do.

 

[royalan]

You know what's absolutely, nails on a chalkboard driving me crazy? This idea that's popping up that things like the public option, debt free college, etc are all because Bernard graced the party with his presence.

No. These things have been part of Hillary's platform for a while. Is it petty that it bugs me? Yes. Probably. But, come on, she can't even get credit for anything in some people's eyes. It doesn't matter. I know. It helps with party unity. Whatever. I agree. It's still annoying when I see people on Twitter and Gaf and wherever laud the fact that she's essentially embracing her own freaking platform!

The thing that bugs me, is that even when Hillary wins she can't win. I remember being a young Hillary supporter in 08, and watching her get raked through the coals by the media and Democrats alike when she didn't immediately concede when Obama was declared the presumptive nominee. She was demolished. And now she's the winner, and not just slightly, but by millions of votes, and yet there still seems to be this effort to put Hillary in her place.

I'm glad the primaries went long (not as long as they did, but a long primary is good). And I will credit Bernie with getting Hillary to be more open about her progressive ideals. But she is still largely running on her ideas. And all it would take to know that is a 5 minute conversation with everyone's best friend, Google.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Funny that the GOP ads against Hillary are too embarrassed to mention who they even want you to vote for instead lol

 

[VendettaRed07]

But yeah the idea that Hillary basically had no college plan before Bernie forced it is a joke. Like, she was planning on spending what, 350 Billion on it over a few years?

 

[User 463088]

The thing that bugs me, is that even when Hillary wins she can't win. I remember being a young Hillary supporter in 08, and watching her get raked through the coals by the media and Democrats alike when she didn't immediately concede when Obama was declared the presumptive nominee. She was demolished. And now she's the winner, and not just slightly, but by millions of votes, and yet there still seems to be this effort to put Hillary in her place.

I'm glad the primaries went long (not as long as they did, but a long primary is good). And I will credit Bernie with getting Hillary to be more open about her progressive ideals. But she is still largely running on her ideas. And all it would take to know that is a 5 minute conversation with everyone's best friend, Google.

I'm not going to lie. I think part of it is gender bias. There's an expectation for girls and women that they can try to win, but if they fall short, they should immediately and unequivocally be gracious and polite. I think it's doubly true if they lose to a boy. I don't know that it's a conscious bias, but it is there.

 

[User1608]

From my perspective Hillary is a flawed but very decent and qualified person. It's so easy for me to say that.

I'm just really glad her latest plans are even better sounding than before, and they were already pretty good.

 

[ampere]

Yeah the PD in Baton Rogue seem to have been arresting people all night for minor stuff

I was just re-reading that volume today. So good.

"Give me a *@#$#& break..."

From my perspective Hillary is a flawed but very decent and qualified person. It's so easy for me to say that.

I'm just really glad her latest plans are even better sounding than before, and they were already pretty good.

For damn sure. Glass houses, right. If I ran for president 10 years from now I would have a progressive platform, but people could sure find flaws in me and probably find dumb stuff I said on the internet.

 

[Big Baybee]

One hopes. Baton Rouge PD have looked aggressive all evening.

That's because they are agressive. Individual cops have earned nicknames from terrorizing this city.

 

[NeoXChaos]

That's because they are agressive. Individual cops have earned nicknames from terrorizing this city.

you live there?

 

[Big Baybee]

you live there?

Born and raised.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

My Anarchist friend is heading to George Mason to get his Ph.D. in Econ.

God, why.

 

[Sibylus]

That's because they are agressive. Individual cops have earned nicknames from terrorizing this city.

Jesus, I only now just saw the video of the BR officer sweeping her rifle at protestors. This is another degree of inexcusable. https://www.instagram.com/p/BHqoVU2hKrk/

 

[CCS]

The OT was pretty overwhelmingly pro Bernie, I think that's probably the simplest reason for them not liking us.

Also because they have not accepted that they must bow down to the QUEEEEEEEEEEEN

 

[thebloo]

While I understand your frustrations, I think it's great that she had to "concede" stuff she already believed in. And if this is what it takes to get people to vote for her, so be it.

 

[shinra-bansho]

You all need to grow a thicker skin and get over it, and listen to the immortal words of another blonde Queen.

 

[Clefargle]

More women are coming out accusing Roger Ailes of sexual harassment:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/six-more-women-allege-ailes-sexual-harassment.html

Very disturbing, but this line stood out:

I don’t know if I engaged with him orally or he engaged with himself

Is she implying he gave himself head??

 

[neurosisxeno]

Is she implying he gave himself head??

I think the intended implication was she wasn't sure if she gave him head or he jerked himself off, which is weird because you would think it would be quite memorable...

EDIT: The preceding line kind of covers it; "After that, something sexual took place, but I blocked it out of my mind".

And he said, ‘Well you might have to give a blowjob every once in a while.’ I told him I was going to have to think about this.

A senior member of the Party you are working with/for just told you point blank, that to make it as a woman you'd have to suck/fuck your way to the top. I feel like the only thing to think about is how quickly you want to sue him...

 

[teruterubozu]

You all need to grow a thicker skin and get over it

Ain't that the truth.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Where the hell is the convention speaker list?

 

[Y2Kev]

Where the hell is the convention speaker list?

Obviously it's not great.

 

[HK-47]

Obviously it's not great.

Nah, its a yuge list. The yugest, best list there ever was.

 

[shinra-bansho]

There's probably at least a Trump every night. And three Donalds, one of them Donald Jr.
It's the best line-up.

 

[Diablos]

So what's up with this General Flynn guy? He worked for Obama... I'm thinking he didn't like him if he's going to be Trump's VP. Is he really a good choice though?

 

[Plinko]

So what's up with this General Flynn guy? He worked for Obama... I'm thinking he didn't like him if he's going to be Trump's VP. Is he really a good choice though?

Guy with racist tweets about how everyone should "fear Muslims?"

Uh, no. Not a good VP choice. Pence, Christie, etc. would be way better. I still think he goes Pence.

 

[Tarkus]

Has Newt fallen out of favor?

 

[User 463088]

Has Newt fallen out of favor?

With human beings? Yes. Yes he has.

 

[Diablos]

Guy with racist tweets about how everyone should "fear Muslims?"

Uh, no. Not a good VP choice. Pence, Christie, etc. would be way better. I still think he goes Pence.

I can just hear Trump talking about him. "People, this guy used to work for Obama, okay. Now he wants to work for me. The things he's told me about his failed policies... it's gonna make your head spin, people."

 

[Tarkus]

With human beings? Yes. Yes he has.

 

[Foffy]

With human beings? Yes. Yes he has.

But he still has fans...who, or in this case, what are they?

 

[Teggy]

I have a Twitter list that's just political news stuff but so much Pokemon go is cropping up in it XD

 

[ampere]

But do lizard people still like Newt?

 

[Cybit]

Sunday morning read for folks who like long-form articles

http://us9.campaign-archive1.com/?u=6e1ae4ac632498a38c1d57c54&id=634715efbe&e=62562cf998

Would highly suggest signing up for this - it's basically my replacement for reading the Sunday morning newspaper.

 

[VanMardigan]

Hillary doesn't publish her ads in her official channel? Is there a separate channel that I can subscribe to? Randomly searching for YouTube videos of Hillary is a bad idea.

 

[RastaMentality]

@thehill: Poll: Trump more popular with Hispanics than Romney http://thehill.com/latino/287086-poll-trumps-hispanic-support-on-par-with-romney-2012

lmao what did Romney do to get what seems to be the floor of Latino support?

 

[Tarydax]

lmao what did Romney do to get what seems to be the floor of Latino support?

Off the top of my head, him getting a spray tan for that Univision interview and talking about self-deportation are the only things I can think of - I'm sure there's more.

 

[thcsquad]

While I understand your frustrations, I think it's great that she had to "concede" stuff she already believed in. And if this is what it takes to get people to vote for her, so be it.

I don't think it's great she had to 'concede', but the fact that she is willing to let the conversation be framed that way emphasizes how effective she is. Get what you want by letting the other side take credit.

 

[Iolo]

lmao what did Romney do to get what seems to be the floor of Latino support?

Actual title of article: Trump support on par with Romney's. Also uses one poll now vs an aggregate in 2012---or maybe actual results from 2012? Who knows, it's omitted.

The Hill is clickbait, especially their Twitter.