Radiance on Spectre is just one of those items that works so well with her skillset that it's hard to justify not getting it. She desperately needs an item that speeds up her farm, it synergies well with her ult, and she survives so long in fights thanks for dispersion so the radiance will do plenty of damage in fights. Even if you build it a bit later, after vanguard, I still think it's a good item.
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Radiance on Spectre is just one of those items that works so well with her skillset that it's hard to justify not getting it. She desperately needs an item that speeds up her farm, it synergies well with her ult, and she survives so long in fights thanks for dispersion so the radiance will do plenty of damage in fights. Even if you build it a bit later, after vanguard, I still think it's a good item.
The Technomancer
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Yeah this basically. Like, if you're not going to get it by 30 minutes...well the game probably has other issues anyway, but if grabbing an early Ring of Health to stay alive in lane means you get a 26 minute Radiance its still worth it. Typically the first teamfight after I get a Radiance on her ends in something close to a wipe
The real question is what do you build if they really are dominating the early game and you're just not going to get a Radiance. I tend towards going straight for the Diffusal then just because if they're owning Spectre early its probably with burst magic and the global mana burn might turn a fight, but I'm open to other's thoughts
Heavy's Sandvich
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I've got an LC play of the week coming up. Will make a short video.
Night_Hand
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How is Brew fair at all
NormalFish
Banned
can someone explain deso BH to me? I just don't understand why that is as standard as it seems to be. I usually build orchid, basher, hex, etc. since I do fuck all damage past like 30 minutes.
Heavy's Sandvich
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to get to the elusive one shot gank.
Night_Hand
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Deso is picked up often on heroes that don't have any strong steroids or don't carry well (deso was the popular mirana pickup before they fixed maelstrom). Also track used to give neg armor, like Slardar's ult. So it used to fit with BH's kit but when they nerfed him it never really fell out of favor. Its good for bursting heroes down if you go deso-dagon
NormalFish
Banned
Ah, I understand. Think I'll stick to my support-y carry items.
I think Halberd is in the same place as Atos. It's a really good item that doesn't do enough to justify a spot in a 6 slotted carry's inventory and the build up sucks/too difficult to farm for supports.
SteveWinwood
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atos and halbard are just part of a game wide unspoken gentlemens agreement that theyre both too good and instant wins so lets keep this competitive and fun
Monochromaticx
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I enjoy playing enigma, I farm the jungle well at the start (8 minute mek,soul ring + courier) but just
keep.on.
losing.
fuckin 40% winrate over 19 games T__T
Here is my last match: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1089270601
any feedback would be appreciated
keep.on.
losing.
fuckin 40% winrate over 19 games T__T
Here is my last match: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1089270601
any feedback would be appreciated
I didn't watch the game, but your tower damage is super low. Enigma can and should push towers hard once you get the mek. That seems like a rough game for enigma, but not at least having a blink is kind of weird.
I really dislike the Dagon build on Necro. I feel it makes him a one trick pony
From this game I assume you were dominating and didnt give a shit about utility, but as soon as I see a Necro go brown boots dagon I know im probably in for a loss
Mek, Blink, Hex, Heart and Aghs are all so much more viable
And dont even get me started on Bloodstone building Necros. Literally retarded building mana regen on a hero who can regen 600 mana in 6 secs. Just get a heart and kill bitches ffs
NormalFish
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Dagon is good because it allows you to instagib someone with or without ult, on top of a good early build path and decent early mana. That's really really strong when you're at all ahead. I agree that in an even game there are tons of better options, but Dagon is certainly not a bad pick up.
Monochromaticx
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I was able to take mid tower early when tinker went bot. After that we kept team fighting, AM got big and I was too scared to split push. But you are right, I probably should have stayed hidden in the trees while converting creeps.
After I went mek I decided we need a hard, reliable lock down for AM so I went straight hex...which took way too long to get. Also tide with blink was the main initiator, so I dunno.. should I have gotten blink too in this case?
NormalFish
Banned
I don't play enigma much, but blink seems pretty necessary just due to the nature of Black Hole. Similar to how earth shaker always wants blink.
SteveWinwood
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no one seems to give a shit about this redbull lan thing
SteveWinwood
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i mean im sure it would be fun if you were there participating
theres just no one watching it or talking about it outside of that
im presuming theyd want some of that
NormalFish
Banned
I've only heard about the redbull tourny in passing, and never anything overly positive. Don't know how they expect to get views if they don't market it somehow. That said, could just be I managed to evade the marketting.
It's hard to sell the tournament to viewers. "There's going to be a lot of random people playing in it, and some pros might be there too!" Doesn't do much for me. Would rather watch Capcom Cup.
There is no real interest in seeing nobodies playing in a tournament. I probably won't even watch it on Twitch...
They were pushing it at BTS2 I believe, saying that spectator tickets were still for sale. And Redbull always puts on good events.
NormalFish
Banned
pudge players will be the death of me. Even when we win I hate them.
I usually never play without a 5 stack with my friends. But we rolled with 4 last night in random draft. He picked pudge with the last pick and wanted a solo safe lane.
Needless to say, it was a great reminder of why i hate playing with randoms.
NormalFish
Banned
My last game had a last pick pudge player (after we had a necro), who insisted he was mid. I asked him to pick an offlaner cause pudge isn't good and he got defensive. Fast forward 12 minutes. He's stomping in lane and over voice com trying to get me to admit that he's good (as if I care if he's good, or that I ever said anything about his play). I explain why I dislike pudge as a hero (lack of scaling, low impact outside of hook in the mid-late game). Game continues with him getting increasingly frustrated by the fact that I won't acknowledge he's some sort of pudge god. Game ends and he's literally yelling at me.
Good game.
SecretMoblin
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thanks for the spec tips, folks
NormalFish
Banned
if you play ogre and your carries aren't morons (or totally outclassed) you win. Pretty broken.
SteveWinwood
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bounch expanding
NormalFish
Banned
looks like USEast is shitting itself again.
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Game will not be scored after I get 80% packet loss. Prior to that I was carrying my team back into the game as ogre. Fuck valve, man.
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Game will not be scored after I get 80% packet loss. Prior to that I was carrying my team back into the game as ogre. Fuck valve, man.
JawesomeJaw
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We were literally taking throne. Is what it is I guess.
NormalFish
Banned
volvo please
Yeah, we were about to take rax after turtling with an afk PA for 30 minutes...
You turn cards and backgrounds into gems, then use them to bid in auctions. Decent chance you can win low key game on the second and third day.
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Completed 3 hero challenges in 3 matches today (Nyx, Drow and Clinkz). Pretty happy about that. Next up is Disruptor and Bane, both of whom I'm 0-3 with. Might have to look up a guide because whatever I'm doing isn't working.
SteveWinwood
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Here's how you win with disruptor. Save your first skill point. Glimpse at level 1 is normally a shitty spell, but in the right situation it's going to be worth way more than the damage from Q or the control from E. He isn't too useful in lane, so go pull to get your early levels. Have a point in each skill at level 3, then max glimpse, then max E. The way you get easy kills with disruptor is using the travel time on glimpse to set up the ult/E combo. You'll see a little mark on the ground where the person is going to return. When you use your ult, you need to immediately E afterwards on the same exact spot. The radius for both skills are about the same, and the static storm will cover the entire circle.
The Q skill does shit damage but is hugely important because it gives vision. You use this vision to cast glimpse no matter how far away that person runs. Even if it's someone like antimage or qop, they can't blink far enough away to get out of glimpse's range when it has 3 or 4 points in it. Disruptor is one of the best heroes in the game at ganking these types of heroes. An easy way to know exactly where the opponent will return when using glimpse is to cast Q on them, and count the strikes in the animation. On the 3rd strike, they'll return to the place they were when you cast the Q on them.
E gives vision, so you can use it to deward a cliff in a pinch. Disruptor's entire skill set because useless once BKBs are out, so later on you want to be casting it on the supports or bkb-less carries. Unless you are using it to initiate by pulling someone back with glimpse or really need it to catch someone in the ult, try to save it if you can. It's an amazing spell for getting one more kill out of a successful team fight.
It can be a bit awkward at first because his skills take some foresight to use properly, but he's such a fun hero.
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