Yeah fuck CM, I'm too useless with a Pudge and QoP around. Can't do anything at all.
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DOTA 2 |OT8| DOTA Asian Championship (1/27-2/9)
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Yeah fuck CM, I'm too useless with a Pudge and QoP around. Can't do anything at all.
GordonHalfman
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I don't think CM can possibly be weak after her buffs. She's not so great against Jugg though which is a problem lately.
I think you need to pick her with a team that can compliment your early aggression though. Like Hylian's team here is just a tiny bit greedy.
I think you need to pick her with a team that can compliment your early aggression though. Like Hylian's team here is just a tiny bit greedy.
SteveWinwood
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we just had this conversation tho
About what? I'm basically useless here because I'm the only support, and our team absolutely cannot be aggressive early, any attempt to just gets me killed by Pudge or QoP because my team can't help me.
maybe ur bad at support
rip team, dont think that was a good CM with your teams comp vs theirs. There's nothing you can do to stop them from killing your heroes
*oh boy lots of typing, long post inc.
NormalFish
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if you trade a death or two for good wards, you can effectively snowball your ability to support due to handicapping their ability to pick you off. Stop warding obvious places and develop a good game sense so you can get up the wards, and then it's easier to keep them up. ezpz.
No shit, that's why I'm trying to improve on it. It just seems super frustrating, especially in the last match I just played. Our team was Medusa, CM (me), Slark, SF, and Lifestealer. We have like no early game except for me. Dusa and I were against Pudge and Windrunner. I couldn't even stand out or range and cast spells without dying, due to the fact that we had like no early game at all. I don't know how else it was possible to win that game.
Also, Dota network down?
Should be counterpicking supports in AP yo.
Also if you learn and watch before diving in you'll have a much better time being less frustrated. Also go over your replays and see why and when you died, etc.
Patch came out?
I have a general good idea why I died most of the times I did that match, most of them being I was anywhere near the fight at all and bad calls. I just wasn't sure what else to do in that match to win it.
I have a general good idea why I died most of the times I did that match, most of them being I was anywhere near the fight at all and bad calls. I just wasn't sure what else to do in that match to win it.
shira
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$60 for a dead hero. valve be trippinIf you buy $60 in points, you can get some Radiance Blades for Alchemist
SecretMoblin
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the only annoying thing about playing CM (aside from the ms) is teammates who whine when you don't max aura ASAP
manage your shit better, the aura will come with time, thx
manage your shit better, the aura will come with time, thx
$60 for a dead hero. valve be trippin
Live Workshop was also making their own version for PW, I guess they took too long:
I think the PW version is better TBH.
manfestival
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$60 for a dead hero. valve be trippin
just seems like something a poor person that cant afford radiance would say
Kappa
Sigismundo
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People bought it back in the day. Let's bring it back.
It's still my guilty pleasure item on Doom.
eh aura whine is fine, but when they try to tell me to build shadowblade/bkb I let them know where they can fuck off to damn quick.
But I realize I kinda never build shadowblade, even on Kunkka.
SecretMoblin
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as long as your deaths aren't pointless - i.e. giving the rest of the team space, saving a carry, securing objectives, etc - it's not the end of the world
if you're dying for nothing you need to figure out what needs to change and change it quick
supporting is tough
It always feels like any attempt to be aggressive gets me killed for sure. Playing defensively makes me still die if they come to our lane, but I die less than actually trying to be aggressive.
play visage
playing aggressively =/= use spells on them and right click
go watch first page first person supporters in client and read those links about zoning i sent to you a year ago
GordonHalfman
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I'm only potato support myself but some random tips from watching those games:
-I think CM should go 1-1-1 at level 3 in most games, maybe unless you're 100% sure no fighting will happen til level 4
-you should pull the big creep before biting so you can auto-attack without tanking the other creeps
-consider maxing bite earlier, it's 300 damage on 7 second cd now (but YMMV)
-check your mana pool before taking level 2 freezing field, it costs 400 mana for some reason
-her bite does disable blinks and does 150 damage at level 1 so roaming on a quop isn't totally out of the question. (Say if your SF lands double raze.) At least have a look mid to see if she's low. (It's not like babysitting a potato like dusa was accomplishing that much.)
-with both heroes I feel like you spent a lot of time on the lane with full mana when you could have been harassing with spells. Lina's first spell is 110 damage at level 1 and she has a large mana pool. CMs bite is 150 damage and she has imba regen.
-I don't think you used dragon slave enough in general, it has very long range, much longer than the cast range. It seemed like you prioritize landing the stun asap when you can start with slave and get a stack of her passive to close the gap with.
-you spent a ton of time trying to farm mana boots on Lina while team was fighting, I don't think they're really that important for her, she has large int gain. In fact some players skip them completely to get phase boots or a faster Euls.
-consider if you can wait for enemy heroes to show before warding unsafe places, I know it's a nasty catch 22 where you need vision to ward and you need wards for vision. You can even buy a smoke just to go on a warding adventure against heroes like clock or the space cow.
-I think CM should go 1-1-1 at level 3 in most games, maybe unless you're 100% sure no fighting will happen til level 4
-you should pull the big creep before biting so you can auto-attack without tanking the other creeps
-consider maxing bite earlier, it's 300 damage on 7 second cd now (but YMMV)
-check your mana pool before taking level 2 freezing field, it costs 400 mana for some reason
-her bite does disable blinks and does 150 damage at level 1 so roaming on a quop isn't totally out of the question. (Say if your SF lands double raze.) At least have a look mid to see if she's low. (It's not like babysitting a potato like dusa was accomplishing that much.)
-with both heroes I feel like you spent a lot of time on the lane with full mana when you could have been harassing with spells. Lina's first spell is 110 damage at level 1 and she has a large mana pool. CMs bite is 150 damage and she has imba regen.
-I don't think you used dragon slave enough in general, it has very long range, much longer than the cast range. It seemed like you prioritize landing the stun asap when you can start with slave and get a stack of her passive to close the gap with.
-you spent a ton of time trying to farm mana boots on Lina while team was fighting, I don't think they're really that important for her, she has large int gain. In fact some players skip them completely to get phase boots or a faster Euls.
-consider if you can wait for enemy heroes to show before warding unsafe places, I know it's a nasty catch 22 where you need vision to ward and you need wards for vision. You can even buy a smoke just to go on a warding adventure against heroes like clock or the space cow.
here u go hylian this guy plays CM/supports a fuck ton and I think he's close to/around 6k or something. I can't remember exactly.
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/49657570
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/49657570
http://www.hitbox.tv/HylianSeven
Trying a few more support games, then probably some Elite Dangerous, if anyone is interested in that.
Trying a few more support games, then probably some Elite Dangerous, if anyone is interested in that.
god damn it I just got two shot by Gore Magala
if you want coaching on support hit me up, I am pro 9.5k sapport.
if you want coaching on support hit me up, I am pro 9.5k sapport.
lol i think jugg maybe, but axe? no way man, if anything i want more buffs for him, hes so bad late game it snot even funny. i once had 3 hearts and a fat wk would just own me in 4 or 5 hits. so dumb.
Wrecked. I've been playing the shit outta that demo, and I am gonna play the shit out of MH4U.
I dont have any friends added to my 3ds, I dont know how, but hit me up when the game comes out.
Edit: I figured it out
SecretMoblin
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also it's Satch's birthday today so wish her a happy birthday
🎊 HAPPY BIRTHDAY SATCH 🎊
🎊 HAPPY BIRTHDAY SATCH 🎊
who's satch?
If you dont mind queuing on USE and don't rage add me. Steam ID same as gaf name
If you dont mind queuing on USE and don't rage add me. Steam ID same as gaf name
Night_Hand
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Yay happy birthday Satch
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