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[Acinixys]

Yup, I have a fundamental problem with the bolded. The team from the winner's bracket plays less games, true. But the team losing the winner's bracket final only plays one more series yet gets a second chance to play. I don't think that's fair, which means failure for a tournament format.

Anyway, it's a topic that applies to a lot of other games as well. I remember the discussions about MLGs shitty tournament format in SC2 back in the day. :lol

Why cant they use sports rules

4 groups with 4 teams each

Play some games for points and top 2 of each group goes through untill we have a 1v1 finals

Like the soccer world cup

 

[Quesa]

Why cant they use sports rules

4 groups with 4 teams each

Play some games for points and top 2 of each group goes through untill we have a 1v1 finals

Like the soccer world cup

I think the gaming world has an aversion to single elim. I know I do.

 

[twobear]

Reddit has a post of the unpicked/unpopular heroes from this tournament:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2uiun4/unpicked_heroes_from_dac/

About 1/4 of the hero pool has been either unpicked or picked 2 times or less.

funnily enough all of the heroes i hate are unpicked

what more sign that you are the noobest of noobs

[edit] i mean some of them i hate but i understand why they aren't picked. huskar is like pub champion but vs. any team who knows what they're doing he's pointless.

 

[Quesa]

funnily enough all of the heroes i hate are unpicked

what more sign that you are the noobest of noobs

wait, is that an AD homage?

I wouldn't know.

 

[Raytow]

wait, is that an AD homage?

 

[twobear]

although there's a strong sense of vindication in my calling shadow demon totally worthless and then him getting picked only once

 

[manfestival]

I like EG
I like secret
hate ee
indifferent about sumail so far
good guy bigdaddy joined the cancer team

 

[Monochromaticx]

Why cant they use sports rules

4 groups with 4 teams each

Play some games for points and top 2 of each group goes through untill we have a 1v1 finals

Like the soccer world cup

I prefer the Champions League format more (double round robin for several groups). I think its more fair to the teams and enjoyable for the viewers.

For the finals I like the BO5 no advantage if the UB team had at least on day free over the LB team.

Maybe a better finals format is to have two BO3 over two days?

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Have seeding, group stage, once it gets to lan have a straight knockout competition, best of 5.

 

[aeolist]

I like EG
I like secret
hate ee
indifferent about sumail so far
good guy bigdaddy joined the cancer team

yeah same here

on secret i'm a bit torn though because i <3333 s4 and puppey but kinda dislike rtz

 

[Quesa]

1/10 how good is skadi on tiny over heart

 

[aeolist]

otoh ppd is an enormous cock

it's not easy picking a favorite team of dotars

 

[SteveWinwood]

1/10 how good is skadi on tiny over heart

&#8730;(-1)

 

[call_kotaku]

regeneration from multiple hearts doesn't stack, right?

 

[Quesa]

regeneration from multiple hearts doesn't stack, right?

but the regen from one stacks real good

 

[Raytow]

regeneration from multiple hearts doesn't stack, right?

I once saw a very feed ursa with like 3 or 4 hearts did an absurd amount of damage with his ulti.

 

[Quesa]

dude's final build was phase > drums > scepter > AC > Skadi > Heart.

 

[SteveWinwood]

did he win

 

[Quesa]

did he win

yeah so I guess it's fine

 

[Kard8p3]

goddamn they wont let you play with -override_vpk anymore.

How the fuck am I suppose to see rubiline jugg zzzzz game is fucking broken

 

[shira]

goddamn they wont let you play with -override_vpk anymore.

How the fuck am I suppose to see rubiline jugg zzzzz game is fucking broken

The DAC jugg sword is pink too

 

[SteveWinwood]

goddamn they wont let you play with -override_vpk anymore.

How the fuck am I suppose to see rubiline jugg zzzzz game is fucking broken

i really hope that's temporary

maybe it will be back with source 2

 

[Kard8p3]

The DAC jugg sword is pink too

Yeah I guess I gotta use that.

i really hope that's temporary

maybe it will be back with source 2

I hope it's temporary cuz damn im mad

 

[Quesa]

NBA Jam announcer is still safe it seems

for now

 

[Kard8p3]

fuck me i also had custom item icons that are 9999x better than the default goddamnit.

ppdsalt

 

[Anbokr]

Reddit has a post of the unpicked/unpopular heroes from this tournament:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2uiun4/unpicked_heroes_from_dac/

About 1/4 of the hero pool has been either unpicked or picked 2 times or less.

tournament isn't over yet and besides this always happens at LANs and will continue to always happen regardless of actual balance--the pro scene is just as trendy as pubs, pro's will mimic each other to death and aside from some pre-planned strats and the first day or two of a LAN, they won't really experiment and risk $$$

75% of the hero pool seeing some good play over 3-4 days is really fkn good

 

[FACE]

goddamn they wont let you play with -override_vpk anymore.

How the fuck am I suppose to see rubiline jugg zzzzz game is fucking broken

Cheaters ruining things for everyone.

 

[fallout]

tournament isn't over yet and besides this always happens at LANs and will continue to always happen regardless of actual balance--the pro scene is just as trendy as pubs, pro's will mimic each other to death and aside from some pre-planned strats and the first day or two of a LAN, they won't really experiment and risk $$$

75% of the hero pool seeing some good play over 3-4 days is really fkn good

It'd be interesting to know what the pick/ban spread was. If 25% of the hero pool is ignored after the group stage, I think that's fine. What I'm more curious about is the amount of diversity in those that are picked/banned.

I haven't been able to watch a ton of matches, but so far the hero pool seems to be pretty diverse with some mainstays.

 

[Big Dog]

fuck me i also had custom item icons that are 9999x better than the default goddamnit.

ppdsalt

Man I know that feel. I know the biggest change will be when phase boots get mirrored to face the direction of all the other boots now. That was one of the greatest accidents that the item mod gave me by not flipping that image when Valve changed it.

 

[Quesa]

NEVER FUCKING MIND NBA JAM IS DEAD FUCK THIS GAME

 

[Hylian7]

Ranked leavers

 

[Sigismundo]

Ranked levers

What type of lever we talking here?

 

[Drkirby]

I think type 2

 

[LiQuid!]

Episode 14 of Nigma's Shitter Digest is legitimately one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time.

I am not even kidding I have been watching this video for almost a half hour at this point because I keep having to buffer. I made the mistake of going back to re-watch a portion of it so I had to start buffering from that spot again. What is even going on at dailymotion?

 

[Watcher]

Dota servers you so crazy

 

[Epix]

When 4 out of every 5 wins are lost due to poor network conditions...you stop caring about mmr.

Literally lost another game that was 12s from ending due to network. Oh valve.

 

[Vade]

Did servers just die?

Well there goes a decent weaver game guess USE problems are starting to hit USW.

 

[Hylian7]

What type of lever we talking here?

I think type 2

Type 4, where the teammate weights down the lever of your chance of winning the game.

 

[Quesa]

Win a game, nothing happens

Start losing a game real bad, servers die and it doesn't count

load into game, dced from server

shit random, someone else abandons and game doesn't count

this game is looking out for me

 

[Gav47]

I am not even kidding I have been watching this video for almost a half hour at this point because I keep having to buffer. I made the mistake of going back to re-watch a portion of it so I had to start buffering from that spot again. What is even going on at dailymotion?

Yeah it flat out refuses to play in 1080p for more than 10 secs for me. Delaymotion in effect.

 

[inkls]

NEVER FUCKING MIND NBA JAM IS DEAD FUCK THIS GAME

Win a game, nothing happens

Start losing a game real bad, servers die and it doesn't count

load into game, dced from server

shit random, someone else abandons and game doesn't count

this game is looking out for me

I think its trying to send you a message or is asking for an apology

 

[SteveWinwood]

Type 4, where the teammate weights down the lever of your chance of winning the game.

that would be type 3 hylian

 

[Hylian7]

From my friend's Ability Draft game.

 

[twobear]

grow breaks ability draft in amazing ways

 

[Kard8p3]

holy fuck im so goddamn angry att is the worst fucking internet provider in the goddamn world.

i got an abanbdon because my internet died when someone used the fucking mircowave holy shit

and this isnt even the first time this week im going to KMS.

 

[Hylian7]

DB+ getting better and better.

 

[Quesa]

Dota you need to make up your mind we can't keep be together like this

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

DB+ getting better and better.

That's cool, is it able to spot junglers or no? Seems tricky to spot.

 

[Chris R]

That's cool, is it able to spot junglers or no? Seems tricky to spot.

It can. Can call you in the jungle or even roaming.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

tournament isn't over yet and besides this always happens at LANs and will continue to always happen regardless of actual balance--the pro scene is just as trendy as pubs, pro's will mimic each other to death and aside from some pre-planned strats and the first day or two of a LAN, they won't really experiment and risk $$$

75% of the hero pool seeing some good play over 3-4 days is really fkn good

It damn sure is. A Leeg tournament of this sort would be lucky to get 30% usage of the hero pool.

Speaking of which...server issues for us in the US? Time to boot up Leeg or Diablo