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DOTA 2 |OT8| DOTA Asian Championship (1/27-2/9)
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He seemed to do really well and made the call that won them game 2 vs c9. I don't think anyone on secret is at pressure to be kicked until after ti5.
I think visage is very underrated in pub games, very rarely played, So I'll try to do some marketing for the hero. Here is what you can do with the hero even if you are awful at it like me (with guest appearance from Quesa):
http://a.pomf.se/igntgl.webm
Aura was only used for like the last two hits.
http://a.pomf.se/igntgl.webm
Aura was only used for like the last two hits.
SecretMoblin
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visage is actually ridiculous, everyone underestimates soul assumption damage
now watch as he gets some random minor buff and suddenly appears in every pro game à la Lion
now watch as he gets some random minor buff and suddenly appears in every pro game à la Lion
Gentle Rodriguez
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They placed third on their first LAN together, oh woe is them. Nobody is under pressure for now.
Man if C9, the team that threw two of the hardest to throw games ive ever seen, are considered as #3 in the West, i worry about the future of Dota
They're somewhere up there but you also gotta remember they qualified easily because they were in the NA qualifier instead where there's basically no other competition. I don't think their road to China would have been as easy were they in the European qualifiers.
poor linda, nothing but buffs since forever and still neaux1curr
Monochromaticx
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I thought it was rtz they wanted and he insisted that zai to be included.
You have to be good at the game to be able to throw, if you aren't good you just lose instead.
NormalFish
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Yup. They went toe-to-toe with the top teams. That's true regardless of their chokes.
Jezbollah
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Pretty much - but considering that the five of them have been together for a matter of weeks, and Puppey said in an interview that they had "around 5 strats", I can see them improving a lot over time.
TS vs VG vs EG is going to be great to watch this year.
He should feel pressure joining a team that will kick someone if they believe they can get an upgrade.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Carries are usually weak early on, so if you're up against such a lineup try to punish it or at the very least dominate the early game. You let such a game go late and yeah suddenly you're up against 3/4 carries with decent farm and it's a lot harder to do shit.
You mean like every other team that has any ambition to win?
Read:not Na'Vi
Monochromaticx
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according to ice3 in the hotbid interview: yes.
In trench doto it seems much, much easier to hold on as an all-carry team than it is to stay relevant as support past the 25 minute mark
I thought it was a done deal, even if they win/
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I'd be surprised if Burning didn't take his spot.
Heavy's Sandvich
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Black to secret, you heard it here first.
i thought burning was going to ig
Na, in the iceiceice interview he said it wasn't a done deal, but that it was likely, paraphrasing here, but he did say something like "It hinges on his performance in this tournament. So far he's done ok, he's done well."
But I bet fy's thought is just that the other 4 are so good and thus, the carry position is easily replaceable. I'm sure they feel that a few of their games have been lost due to communication since Chinese isn't black's first language and iceiceice confirmed that black's chinese still isn't that great.
OldAsUrSock
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No, EG will kick Sumail and pickup Black while VG gets Burning.
User 85168
Banned
IceIceIce mentioned that while it's getting better, the language barrier is still having an impact on their play.
Dreams-Visions
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Nah, Black seems to like China. There have been multiple carry slots in the West that would have welcomed him. I think he wants to stay in China.
That said, Black mid on EG or as the new NaVi carry would be hella entertaining. Then again, I'd really like to see how Sumail grows (and how teams adjust to him). He's already styled on some of the best mid players in the world. Imagine him 5 years from now if he still has the passion.
I figured as much.
Monochromaticx
Member
I am so frustrated with dota I am considering installing leeg.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Kick EE, pick up Black. C9 win TI5
Sounds like excuses.
manfestival
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I think most of the issues with Black come from the matches they played versus Chinese teams in local tournaments and scrims recently and where VG didn't perform very well.
In major tournaments, they've been doing great on the other hand and if your aim is TI5, I'd put more weight into that than small scrims and tourneys. They've shown that they are the best Chinese team right now, I think kicking him would be silly unless they grab a very motivated xiao8 or something.
Yeah everyone is saying Burning.
In major tournaments, they've been doing great on the other hand and if your aim is TI5, I'd put more weight into that than small scrims and tourneys. They've shown that they are the best Chinese team right now, I think kicking him would be silly unless they grab a very motivated xiao8 or something.
Yeah everyone is saying Burning.
Monochromaticx
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The only two carries that I think can fill Black^'s shoes would be Burning or Hao.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1222927027
The anti-farming/anti-lategame mentality in pubs is totally real.
The anti-farming/anti-lategame mentality in pubs is totally real.
NormalFish
Banned
The other team didn't seem to have that mentality.
35 minutes is barely lategame. They basically had this won by 25 because my team basically gave up. Viper decided that I needed to help him pursue kills instead of splitpush, some of them decided it was over in 15 minutes because bot lane was getting fucked, while I was absolutely freefarming top. I mean look at this.
And my new joberino starts tomorrow.
Well he's been in China a long time and improved a lot. Wasn't his western experience being on that clowny Mouz team followed by LGD.int? Not exactly stellar teams. Since then he had some time to play Chinese pubs, then played on that team of new guys. I think that was probably good for him as a player. He was forced to be a leader and be active in games rather than get amazing farm then do nothing with it, which he was notorious for. By the time VG picked him up he'd matured a lot as a player.
35 minutes is barely lategame. They basically had this won by 25 because my team basically gave up. Viper decided that I needed to help him pursue kills instead of splitpush, some of them decided it was over in 15 minutes because bot lane was getting fucked, while I was absolutely freefarming top. I mean look at this.
okay you had a bad team, what else do you want us to say?
RukusProvider
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Gotta give credit to Xboct for stepping up and carrying NaVi as far as he did.
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