I beat it with a dual Garp team. I get almost 2,000hp from meat orbs, so I was easily able to heal back the damage.
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One Piece Treasure Cruise |OT| Golden Hammer ---God--- Usopp
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I beat it with a dual Garp team. I get almost 2,000hp from meat orbs, so I was easily able to heal back the damage.
burritosenior
Member
The Croc won't drop. That's a load of croc!
/Keeps at it.
/Keeps at it.
burritosenior
Member
Too many 3s for me.
Also, Croc just dropped... beli. That's just the worst feeling. >.<
Also, Croc just dropped... beli. That's just the worst feeling. >.<
At least you got a stamina refill!!!!
For today my snail gave me 4x money with 1 green turtle..
;(
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
I got colas.
fivepersondude
Member
Don't feel bad, that's all I ever get.
Congrats!
My man !! Congrats !!
Reading these last pages shows i have been lacking lately when it comes to OPTC. Havent beaten the Mihawk Island yet, havent farmed Croc, missing Turtle times and the Friend Treasure game etc.
Hope it gets better soon....when is the next Sugofest ? lol
Bremsstrahlung
Member
Managed to get a rainbow dragon this week, so now my Rayleigh is evolved.
And Crocodile is Arlong all over again.
And Crocodile is Arlong all over again.
DrAg0nBoY
Member
Yeah happened to me also once :/.
Cloggerdude
Member
Croc dropped for me last night. Needed to waste some stamina before a level up, so I made a couple of runs and.....bam.
But now I want two....
But now I want two....
I'm gonna be rolling rooted Android against JP Sabofest today. If I get any accounts with sexy units (except for the Sabo/Rayleigh which I will be getting on my first try, of course), GAF can have first crack.
I'll make a post with the results when it's all over, or perhaps when I get sick of mindlessly poking at my phone.
EDIT: It is not today, it is tomorrow. I cannot read calendars properly.
I'll make a post with the results when it's all over, or perhaps when I get sick of mindlessly poking at my phone.
EDIT: It is not today, it is tomorrow. I cannot read calendars properly.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Lol. I did the same thing, except I have a MAX Rayleigh with 10 points in w/ Cotton Candy.
I could also not find him. Hope he didn't quit.
realalbedo
Banned
Can anyone put canon guy as a captain now? I need to finish this Alvida's mission
Neoriceisgood
Member
It's taking me forever to get a QCK striker for Alvida mission
Oh yeah, I haven't gotten that one either.
Any place to easily get one?
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
A striker always appears on Stage 2 for Alvida with the penguins. It's just a question of the TYPE (DEX, QCK, etc) that appears. You can also nab one if it shows up on Stage 3, otherwise spamming Stage 2 over and over until the QCK striker drops is one way to get one.
Cloggerdude
Member
Xcution bro: What are you using that Monster Chopper for? Also, why have you stopped posting?
Holy hell how much cola did you have banked?
Can confirm Korial changes captains pretty much every ten minutes or so, but pretty much every day I get to play with his signature MAX Mihawk.
Just order your friends list for LVL and you should find him in the top 5 results, no matter which captain he's using at the moment.
Yeah, I wish games like this had a "Friend Captain" slot you could set, instead of just using your current lead. I'm keeping my almost maxed Mihawk up since it seems to be getting a lot of use during the Lucci event, but I'm actually using an Asura Zoro team to clear the event myself. I have to remember to swap back when I'm done.
That would be especially great for people like me that don't bother changing the captain to
Another thing that would be really useful would be an easy way to know the special level of friends' captains, because I really only remember about Korial's Mihawk and maybe Maju's one too, but I'm not sure...
You can just click on the Characters portrait to see their skill level.That would be especially great for people like me that don't bother changing the captain tobetter help friendsboast my Rayleigh.
Another thing that would be really useful would be an easy way to know the special level of friends' captains, because I really only remember about Korial's Mihawk and maybe Maju's one too, but I'm not sure...
Cloggerdude
Member
That would be especially great for people like me that don't bother changing the captain tobetter help friendsboast my Rayleigh.
Another thing that would be really useful would be an easy way to know the special level of friends' captains, because I really only remember about Korial's Mihawk and maybe Maju's one too, but I'm not sure...
And mine!
And sasuke's!
Yes, but that's not as convenient as displaying it in the list. I mean, the special level is usually much more important than the number of cotton candies, and yet, that's right there and the special level is hidden away.
I'll remember it
until tomorrow I guess?
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
Wow, the Marco skill book drop rate is crazy low and I tried to level up a skill again and another failure. 11 skill books without a skill up.
And there is someone in my friend list with a max skilled Marco. How many runs or how much luck do you need for that?
I mentioned in a prior post, it took me 64 books to max skill Marco. The book drops at a rate of 25%. I've read of another player only needing 37 books to max skill him, I know of a couple other players who unfortunately have gone 0/40 and 2/89 in skill ups for Marco. I went 0/5 three times and 0/12 during my attempts.
The skill up luck is uncontrollable, but if you're aiming to try to save books 40-60 may be what is required. Which puts you in the range of upwards to 300 runs for this fortnight. Sadly, expect all the future fortnights with Supernova and WB commander books to require the same amount, because they'll have the same drop % for their books.
Also if you happen to have Whitebeard... all I can say is good luck. That will really be a trial by fire.
Nope, still not showing up for me, not even on the actual Friend List [where you don't need to log in to have it refreshed]. He must have removed me.
I can't really blame him, since he has Rayleigh and is likely pretty popular. That being said, I'll definitely missed his high-skilled units.
Did the books drop every fourth run or do you mean one Marco out of four chests?
I gave up to save all those books. The rate up seems also kind of low so I want to have at least some space for the next turtle time...
Ah, and congrats for maxing your Marco.
I maxed my Merry around the time Mihawk arrived for the first time. Since then I could save my Cola and got upgrade 1-9 without a failure. Level 10 took 3-5 tries.
Lol people complaining about Marco skill book droprates. Good Luck with the Whitebeard ones
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
Did the books drop every fourth run or do you mean one Marco out of four chests?
I gave up to save all those books. The rate up seems also kind of low so I want to have at least some space for the next turtle time...
Ah, and congrats for maxing your Marco.
Thank you! Skill maxing I find is the hardest thing to do in the game. It's one thing to acquire enough books, it's a whole other to succeed with getting the darn things to work.
But no, sadly the drops don't work like that. Cumulatively is what I meant by drops/overall runs but also chance wise per individual run. What I can tell you is that you have a greater chance of acquiring a Marco book if Kaku or the QCK evolved pirate striker drops a chest. But his book also definitely drops randomly from other fodder.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Lucci still has 5 daysSo is Franky's fortnight going to be up soon? I don't see any notification for it.
I looked at my character box just now and my best int captain after 110 days of playing is thunderbolt tempo nami. Sad times.
Oh lol. For some reason I thought it was ending this week. @_@ Maybe I'll max out kaku after all, then.
I've done around 40 Expert Lucci runs, gotten... 11 Marco manuals, I think. I don't even have Marco, of course.
I've come to accept that there are certain specials that I won't be getting to MAX, at least not for a long, long time. If the developers decide to make certain strategies accessible only to players who are both willing to run fortnights aggressively and have luck for manual drops, then that's their decision.
Now, if they start locking the majority of content behind that wall of gambling, and the game becomes more about thinly-disguised slot machines than skill and knowledge of the game's mechanics, I'll definitely bail, One Piece IP or no.
I've had similar discussions with friends about $60 console games that revolve around a RNG, such as Borderlands 2 and Destiny. If you're locking player enjoyment behind a 0.05% drop rate just because you want that drop to be the super-ultra-rare-only-three-guys-in-the-world-have-it thing, you're flirting with the possibility your player will quit out of frustration before they ever even see your work. Sure, some players may stick around, but they are often compulsive, competitive types, dragging down the community with their min-max obsession, satisfied as kings of an empty mountain.
OP:TC manuals are just enhancing nigh-useless specials to the point of being useful on bosses, which isn't too bad. When that becomes the only way to kill a boss, it's problematic, which is what OP:TC is flirting with more and more.
There should be a balance, with diverse solutions to boss fights. I hope the 4.0 ability system helps with that, but I have doubts.
I've come to accept that there are certain specials that I won't be getting to MAX, at least not for a long, long time. If the developers decide to make certain strategies accessible only to players who are both willing to run fortnights aggressively and have luck for manual drops, then that's their decision.
Now, if they start locking the majority of content behind that wall of gambling, and the game becomes more about thinly-disguised slot machines than skill and knowledge of the game's mechanics, I'll definitely bail, One Piece IP or no.
I've had similar discussions with friends about $60 console games that revolve around a RNG, such as Borderlands 2 and Destiny. If you're locking player enjoyment behind a 0.05% drop rate just because you want that drop to be the super-ultra-rare-only-three-guys-in-the-world-have-it thing, you're flirting with the possibility your player will quit out of frustration before they ever even see your work. Sure, some players may stick around, but they are often compulsive, competitive types, dragging down the community with their min-max obsession, satisfied as kings of an empty mountain.
OP:TC manuals are just enhancing nigh-useless specials to the point of being useful on bosses, which isn't too bad. When that becomes the only way to kill a boss, it's problematic, which is what OP:TC is flirting with more and more.
There should be a balance, with diverse solutions to boss fights. I hope the 4.0 ability system helps with that, but I have doubts.
Cloggerdude
Member
Honestly, I've been working on my Zephyr guide for a while and, while I see your point, I feel like this game actually does offer quite a few options when it comes to defeating Bosses. There are going to be quite a few different teams that will work for Zephyr, and a good portion of them don't require any kind of skills to be maxed. I feel like Garp was a lot more restrictive honestly.
Of course, you're still going to have to have some pretty decent units. That's just kind of how it is for these kind of games though.
I just wish I had a Marco.... ;_;
I don't feel like Zephyr is part of the problem, either, and Garp actually didn't bother me much. Mihawk or M. Chopper, being early attempts at the raid boss concept, are certainly reasonable to defeat. I actually think it's okay if a raid boss is nigh-invincible at their first appearance, as long as new options open up before they return. I think the pinch is really going to start with Doffy, where the options get really limited, and MAX Special Mihawks are required in almost every team. Aokiji and Enel continue the trend, with no clear workaround.
What I hope for from Bamco (or whatever internal dev team is actually working the game) is for some decent mid-tier gacha units that open up more team diversity. I think the
Revolutionary Army
I think CCGs are sort of the predecessor to games like this. In early M:TG, you could win with the $500 deck consistently, and the $50 with a little luck. They need more complicated mid-budget solutions to match the top-tier min-maxed ones.
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
I've wondered how different this game would be for the global format if we didn't have Japan essentially beta testing the game for us. Or better yet, if we simply were caught up.
We know what raids are next, we know what fortnights are comings, we know what drops to expect, we know what units we should try to pull for, we know what evolvers to use, we know what gives what for XP, we know unit specials and their cooldowns, we know team compositions and even have videos showing runs which take continues and which don't. The entire strategy guide is already online already, so to that point is the game even fun anymore?
As someone mentioned in this thread, all the preparatory work we get to do could very well be the reason the box hasn't been upgraded. More space means being able to hold onto those rarer skillbooks, or whatever else on the off chance we acquire X to use it on. Or it could be simpler and it just hasn't happened yet because it hasn't.
I'm sorry QMZN but yes, as you've said 40 runs at Lucci isn't enough to max Marco, if that's your goal as a player. And I say that generally too to all players, myself included. The smart thing we all think would be would be to stash the books and wait for the next rate up. But again that's probably not till 3 weeks away, so you run yourself into a problem like Chrono has. However in the same sense 40 runs isn't enough, similarly 400 runs might not be enough if your luck is terrible. I know of a players who have done exactly that and sadly failed, but they're still going.
A hardline does exist though, it's between the player who wants just that one singular raid or fortnight boss unit and the player who wants to farm 100's of them. That's when the team make-up matters and yes, where the specials become more than "nigh-useless".
Is that compulsive, obsessive? King of the mountain type of behaviour? I don't know. I think the comment about "dragging down the community" is harsh, but I'll leave that there. But I see no difference in someone grinding through Dark Souls, endlessly playing Warcraft, or whatever other game said player gets enjoyment from. So yes the conversation of a $60 all-in game, or a monthly subscription game with expansions versus a game like this is definitely something to think about in terms of - is it worthwhile.
All I know is this game is more fun, at least for me personally, when everyone else succeeds. But if you're thinking this is anything but a thinly veiled slot machine, I don't think it pretends to be anything more than exactly that. Drops are pre-determined when you enter into a stage, pulls are pre-determined when you click "rare recruit". As players all we do is perform the required action to complete whatever it is we do in the game. Is that more skill than purchase? I don't know.
I look at this game as nothing more than an arcade machine I keep pumping quarters into. I could just as very well be playing Donkey Kong trying to get a kill screen. And in that same end, I don't regret it because I'm having fun, but I do look at the landscape ahead and see it not ending.
I see new units which don't really change much, other than being your favorite OP characters. I see 4.0 using dupes pulled during a sugo as being "less wasteful" if they weren't already that in our complaints when we pull. This is already becoming a lot of typing but to what Cloggerdude is saying the balance is there, but I think the game also scales to where certain pulled (or farmed) character expectations fall in place, or even not maxed but lowered cooldown for X unit do get to be requirements. I think that's fair in the sense of a difficulty, but even again... the game doesn't fault you for continuing and spending a gem, if the drop rate is 100%.
TL;DR - there isn't one.
We know what raids are next, we know what fortnights are comings, we know what drops to expect, we know what units we should try to pull for, we know what evolvers to use, we know what gives what for XP, we know unit specials and their cooldowns, we know team compositions and even have videos showing runs which take continues and which don't. The entire strategy guide is already online already, so to that point is the game even fun anymore?
As someone mentioned in this thread, all the preparatory work we get to do could very well be the reason the box hasn't been upgraded. More space means being able to hold onto those rarer skillbooks, or whatever else on the off chance we acquire X to use it on. Or it could be simpler and it just hasn't happened yet because it hasn't.
I'm sorry QMZN but yes, as you've said 40 runs at Lucci isn't enough to max Marco, if that's your goal as a player. And I say that generally too to all players, myself included. The smart thing we all think would be would be to stash the books and wait for the next rate up. But again that's probably not till 3 weeks away, so you run yourself into a problem like Chrono has. However in the same sense 40 runs isn't enough, similarly 400 runs might not be enough if your luck is terrible. I know of a players who have done exactly that and sadly failed, but they're still going.
A hardline does exist though, it's between the player who wants just that one singular raid or fortnight boss unit and the player who wants to farm 100's of them. That's when the team make-up matters and yes, where the specials become more than "nigh-useless".
Is that compulsive, obsessive? King of the mountain type of behaviour? I don't know. I think the comment about "dragging down the community" is harsh, but I'll leave that there. But I see no difference in someone grinding through Dark Souls, endlessly playing Warcraft, or whatever other game said player gets enjoyment from. So yes the conversation of a $60 all-in game, or a monthly subscription game with expansions versus a game like this is definitely something to think about in terms of - is it worthwhile.
All I know is this game is more fun, at least for me personally, when everyone else succeeds. But if you're thinking this is anything but a thinly veiled slot machine, I don't think it pretends to be anything more than exactly that. Drops are pre-determined when you enter into a stage, pulls are pre-determined when you click "rare recruit". As players all we do is perform the required action to complete whatever it is we do in the game. Is that more skill than purchase? I don't know.
I look at this game as nothing more than an arcade machine I keep pumping quarters into. I could just as very well be playing Donkey Kong trying to get a kill screen. And in that same end, I don't regret it because I'm having fun, but I do look at the landscape ahead and see it not ending.
I see new units which don't really change much, other than being your favorite OP characters. I see 4.0 using dupes pulled during a sugo as being "less wasteful" if they weren't already that in our complaints when we pull. This is already becoming a lot of typing but to what Cloggerdude is saying the balance is there, but I think the game also scales to where certain pulled (or farmed) character expectations fall in place, or even not maxed but lowered cooldown for X unit do get to be requirements. I think that's fair in the sense of a difficulty, but even again... the game doesn't fault you for continuing and spending a gem, if the drop rate is 100%.
TL;DR - there isn't one.
fivepersondude
Member
I am 198 cola down trying to go from 9-10 on the Merry. I will keep pumping cola til I get it.
Edit: the only thing I would complain about, is how rare it is for raid bosses to return.
Edit: the only thing I would complain about, is how rare it is for raid bosses to return.
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