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[NYCmetsfan]

How did the US figure this union stuff like 250 years ago and enlightened europe screws it up

this posh dude on the BBC sounding like a trump voter "it doesn't mean they're racist", "I don't study politics" "i researched online and decided on leave"

 

[Effect]

So do they actually have to go through with leaving it leaving wins? They can't just refuse to do it while pointing to how stocks have fallen, etc as reasons why it wouldn't be in the best interest of the country? Of course leaders would need to step down. Or can that not be done?

 

[plagiarize]

Wait is Y2Kev actually freaking out or not. I can't tell anymore. Y2Kev is who I rely on to not panic.

Nah. Y2Kev panics all the time.

 

[Abinash117]

Hillary is going to have to go with a very simple message on this one:
"This is what my idiot opponent wanted."

Repeat, repeat, repeat.

It'll be clear cut as hell. No much you can do about that, besides Trump saying he didn't want it and blame Obama for going. Either won't be very effective.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

How did the US figure this union stuff like 250 years ago and enlightened europe screws it up

this posh dude on the BBC sounding like a trump voter "it doesn't mean they're racist", "I don't study politics" "i researched online and decided on leave"

civil war and racism unite us

 

[Y2Kev]

Nah. Y2Kev panics all the time.

Id be panicking if I was relying on your earlier primary predictions, chap!

 

[Splendor]

Wait is Y2Kev actually freaking out or not. I can't tell anymore. Y2Kev is who I rely on to not panic.

If you see Pigeon panic than you know shit is real.

 

[sphagnum]

The GOP is totally going to blame Obama for this. Somehow it was his fault.

If Obama hadn't pulled out of Iraq, ISIS would have never existed and so there wouldn't be Syrian refugees threatening to overthrow British democracy! The good (white) people of England are just protecting their national interest and the fickle liberal/socialists of Europe are destroying their economy as punishment!

 

[Basileus777]

How did the US figure this union stuff like 250 years ago and enlightened europe screws it up

You think they figured it out 250 years ago well before they fought a brutal civil war over it?

 

[Makai]

How did the US figure this union stuff like 250 years ago and enlightened europe screws it up

The party game Nomic has proven to me that historical accidents really, really matter. Very easy to create a failed state, let alone something more minor like Brexit.

 

[plagiarize]

Id be panicking if I was relying on your earlier primary predictions, chap!

I think I got more right than I got wrong. Not sure what there was to panic about.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

You think they figured it out 250 years ago well before they fought a brutal civil war over it?

the civil war didn't fundamentally change the federalist system.

 

[plagiarize]

The pound is now the lowest it's been since 1985. GREAT JOB.

Thank god my parents have a bunch of money in USD after we bought the house from them.

 

[greatgeek]

the civil war didn't fundamentally change the federalist system.

The Civil War Amendments (particularly the 14th) kind of did.

 

[Officerrob]

BNO News @BNONews
BREAKING: British pound plummets more than 9% to lowest level since 1985

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/746177116186746881

 

[Iolo]

If you see Pigeon panic than you know shit is real.

With London out of the EU the financial sector will rapidly migrate to the continent, hollowing out the City.

At the same time manufacturing will be cheaper on the continent as well because of the trade deals, so there goes that.

Take a day trip to the Irish Republic next week, because that's what a country like Great Britain but without a financial sector or a manufacturing base looks like in terms of economic success.

.

 

[thepotatoman]

I think in some ways:

The EU would want to get the trade deal ASAP and it might be even more favorable to the US now.
The UK would also get a trade deal done quickly and they might be desperate because of poor economy, uncertainty, need to save face, and it will look weaker than the US.
The pound will be weaker so it looks like things will be cheaper.
The UK will now lean on the US more probably.
The EU will be in a weaker state, US might gain more influence over it as well since it is also a big ally.
We get to shit on the UK more now.

On the flip side it could be disastrous for the rest of the EU which will affect us.

I have to imagine the UK was the US's biggest cheerleader in the EU.

Maybe we should send Obama over to emphatically apologize to France for the whole Iraq War thing and remind them what good buddies we used to be. Could even make a whole tour out of it.

 

[Holmes]

Suggest Canada? Trudeau is a cutie pie and probably a little less murderous. Probably

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[AntraxSuicide]

Was going to post the exact same thing haha.

We love you, Adam. I'm going to Battle of the Seasons in New Orleans on Saturday.

How did the US figure this union stuff like 250 years ago and enlightened europe screws it up

We tried the Articles of Confederation, it bombed, and we moved on. Also, through the heinous act of slavery, we have minorities here which forces a lot more people to accept their existence. Sure, we definitely have tons of irredeemable racists here, but white liberals in this country are at least a factor.

Hell, what social nets we have are at least (after years of hard-fought battles) set up with minorities in mind. But as soon as any brown folks start collecting overseas, then they start talking about taking it away.

 

[Iolo]

Putin was very smart to destabilize Syria further.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Britain won't leave the EU. The markets are already shitting on themselves and many people who voted for Leave will regret it, so there will be a gigantic national crisis and Remain will win in the end.

Putin was very smart to destabilize Syria further.

This is my favorite topic. Why?

 

[shinra-bansho]

Britain is a mess.

 

[sphagnum]

How did the US figure this union stuff like 250 years ago and enlightened europe screws it up

They haven't had time to get over the idea that nations don't have to be tied to ethnicity. I mean we still have that problem with a huge segment of the population here but we've always had, to some degree at least, the notion that we're a country of immigrants to blunt that.

 

[googleplex]

Well... on the bright side. Could this stop Bernie Bros can stop pointing to mythical European socialist utopia, as a way to paint American Democrats at right centered?

 

[shem935]

Well... on the bright side. Could this stop Bernie Bros can stop pointing to mythical European socialist utopia, as a way to paint American Democrats at right centered?

"Look at Britain, they are actually a democracy where the people have the power! They are saying fuck you to all the big corporations by leaving!"

 

[dramatis]

I wonder how Crab is doing.

 

[Abinash117]

I have to imagine the UK was the US's biggest cheerleader in the EU.

Maybe we should send Obama over to emphatically apologize to France for the whole Iraq War thing and remind them what good buddies we used to be. Could even make a whole tour out of it.

I actually imagine the future presidents will now seek closer relations to Germany and France now which is not a bad thing at all actually. Short term things will edge towards mainly bad, mid term I think kind good for the US, long term is mainly bad. A weaker EU is bad.

 

[Retromelon]

the europeans have warred with each other for a thousand years. they are a contentious lot. Our unity is our strength

at least pat condell will be happy today

 

[Holmes]

My favorite thing about the Brexit thread is the Brits who are trying to shift some focus to the US and Trump, and it's like nope. This is all you guys.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Well... on the bright side. Could this stop Bernie Bros can stop pointing to mythical European socialist utopia, as a way to paint American Democrats at right centered?

Nah. Leave stuck it to the establishment.
It's nationalist, it's isolationist, it's antiglobalisation. It should embolden some of them.

 

[User 463088]

My favorite thing about the Brexit thread is the Brits who are trying to shift some focus to the US and Trump, and it's like nope. This is all you guys.

It's time for someone else to get shit for their terrible policies and politicians. We get it enough. Even though we totally deserve it 99% of the time.

Can I just say, I hide in the cleft of the rock that is multiculturalism.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

I really can't believe this is happening. I really hope this isn't a preview of november.

Though we got obama in 2012 while the UK voted to destroy their health care system

This is a case for pivoting to asia. Europe is a mess. Sad!

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I really can't believe this is happening. I really hope this isn't a preview of november.

Though we got obama in 2012 while the UK voted to destroy their health care system

minorities will save us

 

[Goodstyle]

Meanwhile folks over at r/the_donald are celebrating this like it's Christmas.

God dammit.

 

[BanGy.nz]

Meanwhile folks over at r/the_donald are celebrating this like it's Christmas.

God dammit.

I've never been sadder to see a New Zealand in my life...

 

[pigeon]

Did you read my highly contentious thread about him? Any semblance of residual respect you might have had for me will disappear.

It was the thing about how maybe the Filipino people really wanted a murderous dictator to get shit done, right?

I mean, I can respect you as a person and still think you are like alt-left in terms of politics

Personally I think that Filipinos are just used to having death squads already so why not just elect somebody to make them official.

Someone who wants to move to the Philippines?

I have a lot of family there, plus the USD is crazy valuable in the Philippines.

If you see Pigeon panic than you know shit is real.

I mean, I am pretty confident right now that the UK is going to be completely fucked for several years, and there's probably going to be some nasty economic periods in the near future because I don't think anybody really believed this would happen. Ultimately the UK just isn't that important so I think things will shake out sooner or later, hopefully sooner.

I'm pretty glad that Trump is the GOP nominee right now, because I think even in this situation he probably can't win. But I could be happier about that.

 

[plagiarize]

So. David Cameron. Utterly ruined his reputation. Little Britain is going to get even smaller when Scotland leave. And Northern Island. And my beloved Manchester and similar areas get completely hosed even more than they have been.

Everyone is going to be calling for him to resign.

And he should.

This is on his head.

 

[Iolo]

This is my favorite topic. Why?

I'm sure I have little to offer here, but in my opinion. Increased refugee outflow -> mass migration to Europe -> inflamed nationalistic and anti-immigrant sentiment -> fundamental pillars of EU (Schengen) undermined, right-wing governments come to power -> popular opinion forces a member exit -> breakup of EU. The refugee situation is just a pressure point of course, the inability of individual EU member states to band together and solve problems is the flaw. I think Putin realized this and scuttled the ceasefire in Syria to damage the EU, although I doubt he anticipated this.

 

[User 463088]

So. David Cameron. Utterly ruined his reputation. Little Britain is going to get even smaller when Scotland leave. And Northern Island. And my beloved Manchester and similar areas get completely hosed even more than they have been.

Everyone is going to be calling for him to resign.

And he should.

This is on his head.

If the oust Cameron (and I think they will) I hope Labour can grow a fucking backbone and get rid of Corbyn too. This is a failure on so many levels.

 

[metalslimer]

Man I know it has little to do with us but it does show how quickly a sure thing can fall apart. Thank god we don't have anything similar to that. While I would love to do something like have a referendum on the 2nd amendment, it's not worth the chaos direct democracy can cause

 

[Cesare Borgia]

David Cameron, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Effect]

Hadn't realized that Trump was all for the leave side. So now he'll come back to the US with the UK in free fall and other markets likely taking hits with his words on repeat. Not a good look. If he thought things were bad earlier this week. Yikes.

 

[kirblar]

Hadn't realized that Trump was all for the leave side. So now he'll come back to the US with the UK in free fall with his words on repeat. If he thought things were bad earlier this week. Yikes.

Yup.

Meanwhile folks over at r/the_donald are celebrating this like it's Christmas.

That's because it's full of far-right racist euros.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

It was the thing about how maybe the Filipino people really wanted a murderous dictator to get shit done, right?

Yes, that one. Lol.

I mean, I can respect you as a person and still think you are like alt-left in terms of politics

Is there even an alt-left movement analogous to alt-right? What does that look like?

I'm a third-way Democrat and have been for a while. I just am overly apologetic for authoritarians.

Personally I think that Filipinos are just used to having death squads already so why not just elect somebody to make them official.

Exactly!

I don't know, if you laid out all the choices for President of the Philippines on a table and asked me to point out the one I had faith in to bring dignity back to the government, I'd hastily draw a picture of Hu Jintao and point to that.

 

[User1608]

Hadn't realized that Trump was all for the leave side. So now he'll come back to the US with the UK in free fall and other markets likely taking hits with his words on repeat. Not a good look. If he thought things were bad earlier this week. Yikes.

I forgot about this. Hopefully another thing that will hurt him in the GE via ads.

 

[metalslimer]

Didn't trump not even know what brexit was?

 

[Spoiled Milk]

I'm sure I have little to offer here, but in my opinion. Increased refugee outflow -> mass migration to Europe -> inflamed nationalistic and anti-immigrant sentiment -> fundamental pillars of EU (Schengen) undermined, right-wing governments come to power -> popular opinion forces a member exit -> breakup of EU. The refugee situation is just a pressure point of course, the inability of individual EU member states to band together and solve problems is the flaw. I think Putin realized this and scuttled the ceasefire in Syria to damage the EU, although I doubt he anticipated this.

I love conspiracy theories but I seriously doubt Russia is playing all of that. Lol.

 

[plagiarize]

BBC called it. That's it.

 

[Suikoguy]

BBC just called it. They voted to leave.

 

[User 463088]

Trump was all over the place with Brexit. Will he try to take credit? OF course. He's an asshole. Assholes love to take credit for shit. But, naw. I don't think the actual results help/hurt him. Moreso, whatever the fallout is.