Aaron Strife
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I don't want any Brits mocking US politics from here on out.
Bloody gits.
Bloody gits.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT7| Notorious R.B.G. Plans NZ Tour
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plagiarize
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Labour are fucked.
Just fucking fucked. Like totally fucked.
Scotland are likely to leave now. That's a lot of left wing votes that will just evaporate. Leaving what... The northwest? Not enough for them to be relevant again any time soon.
I don't know who benefits from this, but I know that more tory *voters* were pro leave than pro remain so they will probably survive this okay (though David Cameron is fucked too).
But Labour? They're fucked. Without Scotland they won't stand a chance.
Abinash117
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Yes I think people are overacting s if this really benefits Trump. No one really knows or cares about Brexit in the US I think. Trump will be gloating about something they don't care about.
plagiarize
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I don't think that Britain will have any measurable signs of improvement from this come November. They won't be out for a year or more. All the fear and uncertainty over it isn't going away now until they negotiate all that.
So I don't think there is going to be anything to crow about other than the UK ignoring Obama's advice.
Spoiled Milk
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The official position of the Scottish is that overwhelming vote to stay in Scotland but ultimately BREXIT would trigger another referendum.
Oh, so delicious. Alex Salmond is probably positively delighted right now. I hear the champagne bottles from across the pond.
Oh, so delicious. Alex Salmond is probably positively delighted right now. I hear the champagne bottles from across the pond.
cartoon_soldier
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Bets on when is the next Scottish referendum?
That is the thing that is shocking to me. Such a major decision requiring a simple majority. Don't some state referendums in the US require 60%?
NYCmetsfan
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The takes on what this means for trump..... lol
Its economy takes a nice hit and Spain starts feverishly plotting ways to reclaim it.
They're gonna know what it is when markets crash.
Spoiled Milk
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Next summer. They'd probably vote to have another referendum this fall and then have six months to carry through.
Frank the Great
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So without Scottish votes, will Labour disappear and be replaced? Replaced by what? Will what's left of Britain be ruled by two right wing parties?
What a mess. Sad!
What a mess. Sad!
User 463088
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Most Americans aren't going to give a shit about this, and aren't going to tie anything to Donald Trump.
Unless our markets crash.
Unless our markets crash.
Voysa Reezun
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The global recession triggered by the housing crisis and the collapse of the mortgage bond markets in 2008 also had a lot to do with it, as this led to austerity in the UK, which led to working class people getting fucked hard.
plagiarize
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Who can even guess right now? But yeah, without Scottish votes Labour would be fucked. As I may have mentioned.
shinra-bansho
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I thought a lot of the Leave vote came from traditionally Labour areas. They can just veer nationalist and even more anti global.
plagiarize
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Good night for now PoliGAF.
I hope our next election night together goes a lot better than this one.
I hope our next election night together goes a lot better than this one.
Spoiled Milk
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How did UKIP go from being the laughing stock of the elections last year to being the WINNERS tonight? Lmao
The problem, I think, is that this economic uncertainty plays right into his hands. He wants chaos because the worse it looks around the more he can say that the world is out to get him and in extension, the worker. Much in the sense that the right wing UKIP, from what I have been reading, have unjustly taken the mantle of being for the British worker, trump presents himself to the American people as the one who can bring back their jobs from foreigners. I hope the DNC prepares itself and counters this rise of people who believe that isolating themselves from the world is the solution to mostly made up problems.
Because Cameron is an idiot.
Kevitivity
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Today the the UK's Fourth of July.
So happy for my friends across the pond.
So happy for my friends across the pond.
Seriously, have you not seen what the pound is doing?
Kevitivity
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Money isn't everything!
jack_package_200
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Everywhere: O god the UK is leaving the EU
r/politics: Killary Emails
r/politics: Killary Emails
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The poster you're responding to is a climate denier who thinks the DNC rigged the primaries for Hillary.
I don't know if this is going to be productive.
IggyChooChoo
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I think this can still fail. We know like 3/4 of the MPs are pro-remain. If this passes tonight by the skin of its teeth but becomes a lot more unpopular over the coming weeks due to economic fallout and the possibility of Scotland/Northern Ireland leaving over it, I think it might be possible for them to find a way to eventually vote it down in the House of Commons, at which point the general UK public will be relieved, and only a minority will be outraged. That's the weakness of referendums: the people are fickle.
eBay Huckster
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I know and it won't but I feel like it should be pointed out anyway.
DrForester
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Can't lie...
Brexit vote has me terrified an old, right wing fringe will pull out a win from Trump over here.
Brexit vote has me terrified an old, right wing fringe will pull out a win from Trump over here.
Cash rules everything around me CREAM get the money, dolla dolla bill y'all.
shinra-bansho
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Yeh, keeping out those dirty browns is the key to happiness.
And the British pound is the admiration of the world.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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#Take: This shows that politicians are willing to keep their campaign promises regardless of how insanely stupid those promises were and how much they are personally against what they promised.
NYCmetsfan
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God I hate things like midterms and elections every two years, but they prevent shit like tonight where a minority decides a nations future.
aspiegamer
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I'm going to cross-post this from over in the Brexit OT, because it proves pretty much everything we already knew. So, in November we'll see what the same split is for Americans.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=208189215#post208189215
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=208189215#post208189215
At least those filthy foreigners will now stay out of the country, amirite?
NYCmetsfan
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@Marion_M_Le_Pen 20m20 minutes ago View translation
Du #Brexit au #Frexit : Il est désormais temps d'importer la démocratie dans notre pays. Les Français doivent avoir le droit de choisir !
Du #Brexit au #Frexit : Il est désormais temps d'importer la démocratie dans notre pays. Les Français doivent avoir le droit de choisir !
jack_package_200
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I wonder if traveling to the UK will be cheaper.
This is why representative democracy is good
This is why representative democracy is good
That's why we've got to work hard to prevent it. Register as many voters as possible, energize them, and turn them out. Finance, demographics, and policy are on our side. We've just got to get it done and not get complacent. We must remember the immortal words of the great Chang:
Abinash117
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If the markets crash and the country goes into a long term recession, it'll be blamed on Britain by most of the population since everyone knows about it. Trump will just backtrack since he has little invested in it once things get bad.
Marion Lol Pen
Christ above, the EU needs to hit the UK hard over this to prevent an exodus.
They have to be shut down and defeated, seen as the jokes they are while not being treated like one. It's unbelievable what's going on right now, and I'm here in the US. I cannot imagine what leave voters are feeling.
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