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kirblar

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His fundraising emails have been marked as spam (possibly because they read more like sales pitches or advertisements and less like campaign fundraising emails) and most people haven't opened them or even looked at them. Both Hillary and Bernie had next to none of their emails marked as spam, so this is a pretty big problem for Trump - he's behind in damn near everything at this point. He can't even get the email part of fundraising done properly.

It's great. I love it. I just hope he doesn't screw up so badly that he doesn't get nominated - but then again, it's not like the Republicans are suddenly going to grow a backbone.
I've had some DNC ones hit the spambox..
Given a Senate majority but not a supermajority, and a House majority, do you think the Democrats should try and eliminate the filibuster? I've been thinking about it a bit recently, and I can't decide what I think.
If we're in that situation,DGAF Obama will lead to No Chillary killing it.
 

thefro

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So, if Manafort can just change who the man is at heart.

Meanwhile Trump has just criticized the president from foreign soil, took a publicity trip to his golf course, issued two different statements on his Muslim ban (on different golf course holes), send out a fundraising email with a 60% spam rate, and said that the plummeting pound is great for his business.

All after Corey got fired.

Already seems like Trump's back tweeting off-message (attacking George Will, saying the polls are skewed) and other shit, so that didn't last too long.
 

HylianTom

Banned
If we're in that situation,DGAF Obama will lead to No Chillary killing it.
There's no doubt in my mind that if Senate Republicans continue to obstruct on this - especially after getting shellacked at the polls in November - Dems are going to go nuclear on SCOTUS appointees.

Right now, they're hiding behind "let The People decide!" After November, no mercy.
 
MSNBC is interviewing Ben Stein as an "expert" on the Brexit.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Trump "scares" Ben Stein and he's not voting for Trump. He's not voting for Hillary either....
 

ampere

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Here's a question:

Given a Senate majority but not a supermajority, and a House majority, do you think the Democrats should try and eliminate the filibuster? I've been thinking about it a bit recently, and I can't decide what I think.

I wonder if we could better regulate the filibuster, like, you can protest by talking about gun violence but not reading Dr Seuss

What we really need to kill is gerrymandering, but I guess that's up to SCOTUS

Oh Hillary WAS there

https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/747134194648748032/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Someone should tell Hillary that Trump is a better friend to the LGBT community.

Queen of the gays.

MSNBC is interviewing Ben Stein as an "expert" on the Brexit.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Ben Stein is only an "expert" on "intelligent design"

What a mess.
 
I wonder if we could better regulate the filibuster, like, you can protest by talking about gun violence but not reading Dr Seuss

What we really need to kill is gerrymandering, but I guess that's up to SCOTUS



Queen of the gays.



Ben Stein is only an "expert" on "intelligent design"

What a mess.

Pretty sure redistricting is kicking in during the 2022 mid term.

There's no doubt in my mind that if Senate Republicans continue to obstruct on this - especially after getting shellacked at the polls in November - Dems are going to go nuclear on SCOTUS appointees.

Right now, they're hiding behind "let The People decide!" After November, no mercy.

At this point I expect Obama to rescind his nomination so they can't fast track him to prevent someone even more liberal.
 

Sianos

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I am going to copy and paste this post next time it comes up
Thank you. :>

It'll be interesting to see how party lines shift when (if?) poor white people and more people in general get on board with the situational attribution approach to understanding suffering and recognizing the value in ensuring citizens sustenance needs are met. Granted, this is assuming that increased communication around the world will reduce nationalism and encourage greater tolerance in the future. But I'm still hopeful for the future.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Maureen ‏@maureengeeee 21m21 minutes ago
@NYGovCuomo @HillaryClinton Pandering queen walks with LGBTQ community to show her fake support b/c her #s dropped in polls

#hottake
 

Bowdz

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There's no doubt in my mind that if Senate Republicans continue to obstruct on this - especially after getting shellacked at the polls in November - Dems are going to go nuclear on SCOTUS appointees.

Right now, they're hiding behind "let The People decide!" After November, no mercy.

Agreed. They are obviously going to push back hard to get the most moderate justice appointed and left unopposed, they'd easily shoot down someone like Goodwin Liu. The Dems need to hit hard and aggressively after November if they sweep to say "The GOP said that the people were going to decide the course of the SCOTUS and they have, so they either need to allow Hillary's picks through in accordance with the will of the voters or we will abolish the filibuster for SCOTUS nominees to allow the people's voice to be heard."
 

watershed

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Be serious folks, this guy should not be Hillary's VP pick. There are other qualified candidates, who would be "ready to assume the duties of the presidency" who are more interesting and exciting than this guy:

90
 

Holmes

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Kaine is safe. There's no danger with him. Which might be one reason why he wouldn't be the best choice. But he wouldn't be the worst.
 

Emarv

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I think we all mostly agree VP choice doesn't matter a ton, but I think Hillary's VP choice will tell us a lot about what she wants her Fall campaign to be.
 

royalan

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I think it might have been Kaine until Brexit, honestly.

I know I know, there were a lot of factors that contributed to Brexit that don't exist here in the US. But if there is one thing that Brexit DID prove, it's how powerful the anti-establishment, populist mindset is right now globally. It might actually be a RISK to choose boring, establishment, checks-all-boxes Kaine as the safe choice.

I think candidates that would better serve to energize the base might be getting a second look.
 

Valhelm

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Maureen ‏@maureengeeee 21m21 minutes ago
@NYGovCuomo @HillaryClinton Pandering queen walks with LGBTQ community to show her fake support b/c her #s dropped in polls

#hottake

"Queen" is a shitty fucking word to use in that context
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I'm still waiting for someone to explain how Trump is more liberal than Hillary.

When Trump says conservative shit, he's lying. He's really a liberal. That's OK.
When Hillary says liberal shit, she's lying. She's a neocon. Lying, untrustworthy bitch.

My new favorite thing is when people pretend Trump would not be an interventionist or a wackjob on FP. He's both supported and opposed the Iraq War and intervention in Syria. He is just an idiot.
 

Iolo

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I've had some DNC ones hit the spambox..

If we're in that situation,DGAF Obama will lead to No Chillary killing it.

One thing to note if you click through to the Ad Age article.

Trump sent 21 email variants during May, with an 8% spam rate (pretty high).

Hillary send 685 variants during the same time, with a 0% spam rate.

Furthermore, when Obama sent his highest grossing email, it was heavily A/B tested, and pulled in $2.6 million. Trump's email was not tested at all and somehow pulled in "$3.3 million". Color me skeptical. I think this includes matching from Trump and joint party donations.
 

Iolo

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The dem platform is looking really good. If Bernie supporters are serious in their policy positions, they should be pretty excited right now.

How can you be excited when you don't get 100% of what you want? It's practically worse than getting 0%.

^ whoops, thread doesn't move as fast on Sunday.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
When Trump says conservative shit, he's lying. He's really a liberal. That's OK.
When Hillary says liberal shit, she's lying. She's a neocon. Lying, untrustworthy bitch.

My new favorite thing is when people pretend Trump would not be an interventionist or a wackjob on FP. He's both supported and opposed the Iraq War and intervention in Syria. He is just an idiot.

The foreign policy debate will be the most hilarious debate ever.
Especially since I don't think he will even attempt a crash course on FP.
 
So glad we don't have Bernie. Progress rarely comes from those most likely to claim they're the most progressive.

Glad we don't have podemos or corbyn leading our left.

Obama and Clinton will get more progressive stuff done than these "true socialists" will.

I mean we got most of our progressive stuff done lead by a rich new Yorker in the 40s who used to be wholesale opposed to what he ended up doing.

Leftists don't get politics and that socialist purity tests don't work in general elections
 
Why is Obama's approval rating going up in the mid 50's? He's been mired in the 40's for most of his eight years.
Obama's numbers go up when he's campaigning and when he has a foil. In this case it's Trump.

His numbers are poor when people compare him to the ideal version of him they've created in their heads. Once you introduce the alternative he looks better by comparison.

Wonder if he's the opposite of Hillary who seems to enjoy massive popularity once she's actually in office doing stuff. And I hope that holds true for her presidency as well.
 

ampere

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RE: rising approval rating, that WHCD joke

“In my final year, my approval ratings keep going up. The last time I was this high, I was trying to decide my major.”

lmao still cracks me up
 

Emarv

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Got into a debate with a friend about how to label Trump's anti-immigration stance. Obviously we use terms like bigot or ethno-nationalist. The problem is there doesn't seem to be a specific term for someone who wants to close borders from immigrant inflow? Isolationism would seem to be perfect but instead we use it for foreign policy, typically as a shortcut for anti-interventionism.

I know it doesn't matter, but I wish there was a better, more succinct term for this anti-immigrant migration sentiment we see going on. Am I missing a term for this anyone can think of?
 
Me and my girls are on the way to cut you up.

I'm sorry, but, as a gay man, I just don't get distracted by secondary sex characteristics. Imagine if I was constantly a thirsty mess over guys with facial hair, or a sexy, deep voice with muscle bulging....and that adorable bit of gold some guys get in their eyes.... Or ....

Wait, what are we talking about?

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Bisexuals are best #bitops4eva :p

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Sibylus

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I'm sorry, but, as a gay man, I just don't get distracted by secondary sex characteristics. Imagine if I was constantly a thirsty mess over guys with facial hair, or a sexy, deep voice with muscle bulging....and that adorable bit of gold some guys get in their eyes.... Or ....

Wait, what are we talking about?

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It's the only way
 
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It's the only way

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A 'Golden Girls' Themed Cafe Is Set To Open In Washington Heights

Dunno when that Hillary campaign Hamilton performance is supposed to be, but here's a place you can visit in NYC after September

OH my GOD.

True story: When I was 3, I knew the theme song to Golden Girls. I would sing it while playing with my toy vacuum cleaner and wearing an apron. I wore out two pretend vacuum cleaners in 6 months. (Sometimes you didn't need to even ask....)

When we went to MGM/Disney's Hollywood Studios for the first time, they had the Golden Girl house on the backlot tour. I cried like I was returning to the mother ship. Golden Girls is my JAM. Well, that and Designing Women. (I'm a Dorothy and a Julia...)
 
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