DrForester
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Not a chance.
nature boy
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She or Obama just has to accuse Trump of exploiting a tragedy and that should change the media narrative.
metalslimer
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You can tell he wrote that as well with the whole "I was totally right guys!" part.
Officerrob
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He's basically going to just say the content of his press release
If anyone calls him out on this, it needs to be someone high enough to get his attention, but not officially connected to the Clinton campaign.
"Paging Senator Warren.. you have an urgent call on the white phone.."
DataStream
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Trump's response is even worse than I thought it would be (which is saying something).
He can't even bare to bring up LGBT as the first group targeted when he finally gets around to the true motivations behind the act.
It is so hard to not go into a hate spiral where I wish harm against him for the betterment of our country at times like this. The reality that his voice is the beginning of the death-throws of intolerance and bigotry as a viable political tactic provides some solace. Then I recognize that as such voices get marginalized they end up lashing out in ways such as this when their words are no longer heard. So fucking sad.
My thoughts with everyone who knows someone a part of this tragedy.
He can't even bare to bring up LGBT as the first group targeted when he finally gets around to the true motivations behind the act.
It is so hard to not go into a hate spiral where I wish harm against him for the betterment of our country at times like this. The reality that his voice is the beginning of the death-throws of intolerance and bigotry as a viable political tactic provides some solace. Then I recognize that as such voices get marginalized they end up lashing out in ways such as this when their words are no longer heard. So fucking sad.
My thoughts with everyone who knows someone a part of this tragedy.
Ted Cruz's statement:
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/742096623992328193
Hasn't he been to events with Christian pastors that call for gays to be killed?
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/742096623992328193
Hasn't he been to events with Christian pastors that call for gays to be killed?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Ted Cruz's statement:
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/742096623992328193
Hasn't he been to events with Christian pastors that call for gays to be killed?
Yep.
nature boy
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User 463088
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Fuck Ted Cruz.
Fuck Donald Trump.
Fuck Donald Trump.
Yes, let's ban Muslims who are born in the US. Good luck with that bro.
I think Trump knows he would never be able to do that, but he also knows he loves the poorly educated who wouldn't bother to do 10 fucking seconds of extra reading to know that the shooter was born in New York.
I think Trump knows he would never be able to do that, but he also knows he loves the poorly educated who wouldn't bother to do 10 fucking seconds of extra reading to know that the shooter was born in New York.
I go back and forth on that. I'd love pushback from someone prominent enough to get attention, but I also don't want the public to throw their hands up at both campaigns.
Thankfully, Trump has a tendency to overplay his hand..
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And Cruz needs to make his damn mind up. Does he agree with his pastor buddy that he wants us dead, or does he simply want to keep us alive so that we can constitutionally rot in jail?
https://twitter.com/ChrisSnyderFox/status/742098270869196800
So his speech might still be about Clinton scandals, just with the Muslim ban added on top.
Avon Barksdale
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How are Kinder Surprise eggs banned but not assault rifles?
This seems like one of those times.
metalslimer
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The GOP pretending like they give a shit about the LGBT community after torturing us for decades is just great. Ted Cruz literally went to event with a pastor that said killing gay people was ok. He is anti gay rights across the board. 20 years ago there would have been party officials saying gay people brought this upon themselves.
Officerrob
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Not a lot of money in the Kinder Surprise Egg lobby
Frozenprince
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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2/3 of the GOP's voters were very enthusiastic about voting for Trump or Cruz as president of the United States.
Picked the wrong era to stop sniffing glue.
Picked the wrong era to stop sniffing glue.
DrForester
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plagiarize
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Does anyone seriously think that if a hundred people in an enclosed space were all packing fire arms, that we wouldn't be waking up to a similar number of dead people when someone opened fire?
Can we at least mandate a degree of proficiency before owning a fire arm?
Can we at least mandate a degree of proficiency before owning a fire arm?
Officerrob
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Lets not forget, I'm sure most of those people were drinking alcohol. Calling for everybody to be armed is just a ridiculous argument
User 463088
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I really, really am getting sick of the media refusing to refer to at as a GAY bar/nightclub.
To ignore what gay bars mean to the LGBT community is fucking insulting. These are our churches. These are the places where we fucking are not supposed to be afraid. Every time they refuse to call it a gay bar it's a fucking slap in the face.
If anyone wants to get a glimpse of it, see "Small Town Gay Bar." It's on Netflix, I believe.
To ignore what gay bars mean to the LGBT community is fucking insulting. These are our churches. These are the places where we fucking are not supposed to be afraid. Every time they refuse to call it a gay bar it's a fucking slap in the face.
If anyone wants to get a glimpse of it, see "Small Town Gay Bar." It's on Netflix, I believe.
I went to that bar plenty in the late 90s when I was on Ole Miss student. It's about the size of my house. Tiny place. Almost everyone there knew each other. To say it was a refuge would not be exaggeration.
plagiarize
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That's a great point too.
Frozenprince
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You guys should know better than to think they view us as human beings.
We're not. We're statistics. We're still nothing more than statistics to use against the big bad Islamic boogyman.
We're not. We're statistics. We're still nothing more than statistics to use against the big bad Islamic boogyman.
plagiarize
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Pretend you didn't need to pass a test and have a license to drive a truck and you woke up to the news that someone had plowed through a crowd of people and 50 were killed. And you said 'hey maybe you should have to pass some kind of proficiency test before you get one'.
And people accused you of trying to take trucks away from every single person who operates them safely.
That would be utterly stupid.
And people accused you of trying to take trucks away from every single person who operates them safely.
That would be utterly stupid.
All of this online inspiration and recruiting that ISIS does makes me realize that someday we might not have the luxury of using the Internet as we do today, right now (even doing things like posting on forums).
Just wait. If there's another 9/11 kind of event planned online with homegrown terror you can kiss the open nature of the Internet goodbye. It sucks, but I've been slowly coming to terms with the possibility over the years and we may all have to just accept it someday. Might as well enjoy the Internet as we know it while it lasts.
Just wait. If there's another 9/11 kind of event planned online with homegrown terror you can kiss the open nature of the Internet goodbye. It sucks, but I've been slowly coming to terms with the possibility over the years and we may all have to just accept it someday. Might as well enjoy the Internet as we know it while it lasts.
User 463088
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I can't even imagine what she's going through.
nature boy
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FFS.
Fuck. I don't even know what to do with myself today... I went on Facebook and the I keep seeing people posting anti-Clinton / pro-Bernie articles and memes. They changed their avatars to be rainbow tinted and in a few cases did some minimal #Orlando post, but they can't help themselves but to go back to this sub-partisan horseshit minutes later. Fuck.
Turned on twitch to watch a bit of E3 coverage to clear my head but I can't stomach watching virtual people get shot today either. Guess I'm just gonna read a book for a bit.
Turned on twitch to watch a bit of E3 coverage to clear my head but I can't stomach watching virtual people get shot today either. Guess I'm just gonna read a book for a bit.
RastaMentality
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That Tyler Pedigo/Benchmark event on Facebook is at 1p tomorrow. I might tune in for a good laugh.
If there was any sense in our congress, gun stores would be linked to a list of people who have been investigated and the appropriate people would get an alert. This incident would have been prevented without an issue.
But no, lets demonize a whole religion. What is Trump even suggesting we do? This guy was born in the US and he had been monitored. Is he suggesting thought crime? Monitor every Muslim and if they even so much as visit a web page with the word ISIS on it, just lock them up?
The NRA's hold on this country is disgraceful.
But no, lets demonize a whole religion. What is Trump even suggesting we do? This guy was born in the US and he had been monitored. Is he suggesting thought crime? Monitor every Muslim and if they even so much as visit a web page with the word ISIS on it, just lock them up?
The NRA's hold on this country is disgraceful.
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thepotatoman
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I know. Can't help but think things muslim consecration camps is the solution that Trump would do in response.
Maybe he'll say something dumb again if he gets baited into giving specifics. His Muslim travel ban was created as a response to San Bernardino because it would have theoretically stopped the shooter from entering America, but it seems like the travel ban would have done nothing to stop this one.
User 463088
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You know what I don't get?
Okay, so we call it "radical Islamic terrorism" or whatever the hell they want us to call it. And what? What does that do? Is this like fucking Rumpelstiltskin? We get the name right and it just magically stops?
It was an act of hate and, yes, an act of terrorism.
You know what else is an act of hate and an act of terrorism?
Me getting the shit beat out of me when I was 13 so badly that one of my kidneys shut down. And when my parent went to the school, the principal looked us in the eye and said "If he wasn't so obviously gay it wouldn't offend the students with religious convictions." (It may have also been an act of hate when my mom launched herself at him across the desk too...)
Or when I was 15 and a group of "Christian" protesters screamed at me and my parents as we were at my first pride parade. When they threw their bigotry at us, they managed to tell my parents they should be ashamed and I should be taken away from them so I could be "normal." They terrified me.
Or the dozens of times I've been called faggot, or whatever else they wanted to throw at me.
I didn't see a hijab there. Or the Quran.
What I saw was the same shit we always see: hatred, narrow mindedness, and stupidity. And people will use anything to justify their hatred and their fear.
Fuck.
Okay, so we call it "radical Islamic terrorism" or whatever the hell they want us to call it. And what? What does that do? Is this like fucking Rumpelstiltskin? We get the name right and it just magically stops?
It was an act of hate and, yes, an act of terrorism.
You know what else is an act of hate and an act of terrorism?
Me getting the shit beat out of me when I was 13 so badly that one of my kidneys shut down. And when my parent went to the school, the principal looked us in the eye and said "If he wasn't so obviously gay it wouldn't offend the students with religious convictions." (It may have also been an act of hate when my mom launched herself at him across the desk too...)
Or when I was 15 and a group of "Christian" protesters screamed at me and my parents as we were at my first pride parade. When they threw their bigotry at us, they managed to tell my parents they should be ashamed and I should be taken away from them so I could be "normal." They terrified me.
Or the dozens of times I've been called faggot, or whatever else they wanted to throw at me.
I didn't see a hijab there. Or the Quran.
What I saw was the same shit we always see: hatred, narrow mindedness, and stupidity. And people will use anything to justify their hatred and their fear.
Fuck.
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thepotatoman
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What's the event? I hope it's an official forecasting duel.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yeah, also white as fuck.
Damn Trump, how are you going to identify these people if some are white?
Gotta love the GOP. Twelve hours since the incident and already attacking the president because he didn't say three words.
Just a mentally ill copy cat.
Just a mentally ill copy cat.
plagiarize
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And imagine JUST imagine if the President of America accused a specific group of being behind this, and then it turning out to not be the case. The same people throwing shit at him for not specifying the idealogy of the terrorist, would be no less pissed off at him. It's important to get all the facts in these situations, however likely it is that we can predict who is behind it.
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