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PoliGAF 2016 |OT7| Notorious R.B.G. Plans NZ Tour
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TestOfTide
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It unfortunately has to be long conversation, but step one is obviously explaining to them that our constitution is literally designed for a 2 party system, meaning their vote for a third party will always be a wasted vote unless the constitution somehow gets changed (which won't happen because neither party wants to change it).
Step 2 is explaining to them that rarely do people get to vote for the perfect candidate. Explain how minority groups vote D not because they think their candidates are perfect but because they are the ones most negatively affected by a Republican win.
Step 3 is asking them what makes them liberal. If it's social issues, explain to them in detail how Hillary has actually fought in favor of liberal social policy and gotten actual results while the other 3 candidates have literally no social policy accomplishments. If they bring up the views of the candidates emphasize the fact that actions speak louder than words and only 1 candidate has taken action to enact socially liberal policy.
If, for step 3, they instead say they are liberal for economic reasons, explain that objectively speaking Stein, Johnson, and Trump have all indicated that they want to enact policies that would destroy the economy. Explain that liberal economic policy will never get a chance in a destroyed economy.
Step 4 is explaining to them the 2000 election and how that proves that third parties do nothing except make the candidate least like the third party more likely to win.
Conclude by explaining to them that they essentially have 3 choices:
- Vote for the heavily flawed candidate who at worst is a player of the political game.
- Vote for the Bigot who literally has all the flaws of the heavily flawed D candidate, but has a million other flaws that the D candidate doesn't have.
- Write in someone else, vote third party, or don't vote. All of these are one option because they all have the same exact result.
nature boy
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Looks like a deliberate attack. Terrible.
andthebeatgoeson
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Canada is punishment? Seems legit.
RustyNails
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Pence it is. LOL
OH MY GOD
HAHAHAHA
Seriously, where are the people that defended Bernie giving this nutbag attention? LMAO. What a joke.
whyamihere
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Ugh, that stuff out of Nice :-(
nature boy
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After the Euros and on National day? Motherfuckers.
I have been saying this for a while. Western PA is red, outside of Pittsburgh. Has been since 2008. Eastern PA is making up for it and has become a lot more blue. There's also more people.So according to this poll, Clinton can perform at the same level as Obama 08 in Pennsylvania, but with different voters. Democrats have lost their strength in the west/south west of Pennsylvania (outside of Pittsburgh), but according to this poll, are making up for it by crushing it in the Philly suburbs, where elections in Pennsylvania are generally determined. It makes sense too, the Philly suburbs are full of college educated voters, and, increasingly, minority voters (which it will be Clinton's job to get to the polls). In map form,
Yup. You have a growing population of people coming further west from New Jersey and New York City. My family original came from NYC and I've seen the area we're in and the surrounding areas just grow and grow. A lot PA is red but a lot of those areas also are low in population compared to the east. There are also people that wouldn't vote for Obama for obvious reasons but might vote for Hillary.
TheLostBigBoss
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Thanks to the asshole(s) in France we're gonna have a split news cycle
sry Trump
sry Trump
metalslimer
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I recommend not watching that video. What a sickening event
Seconded. fucking terrible.
whyamihere
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Remember how bad that ABC News interview that Mike Pence did trying to defend the RFRA? Here it is, so you can watch it in its cringey glory.
DrForester
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Let down that it's Pence. I know he has some baggage that's going to go national, but he does seem like the safe and smart choice of the three finalists. Pence also doesn't seem to be the idiot that Gingrich and Christie are.
ask INGAF but probably.
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Seriously. Came across by accident and yeah don't watch. Wish I could have the little time I did end up spending on it back. Don't want those images. Those there have no choice.
Many of us think that vid is funny for various reasons and it makes them think it's cool to come out lol.
If anything, that thread makes me really look forward to OT on November 8th.
Let me dispel this notion that the Clinton campaign knows what it's doing.
I'm looking forward to the tears for once.
I feel like I should make an image macro that says "the GOP primary is not remotely similar to the general election."
oof, just read about the deaths in France. that's tragic :/
i'm not sure the sore losers will post much. FreeRepublic will be a gold mine, though
thinking it's funny or not wasn't my issue, it was the sincere praise that got me
i'm not sure the sore losers will post much. FreeRepublic will be a gold mine, though
thinking it's funny or not wasn't my issue, it was the sincere praise that got me
The GOP electorate isn't representative of the entire nation. How many times does this need to be pointed out?
Hey guys have you heard?! The general election is exactly the same as the GOP primary! Besides the fact you have to appeal to everyone instead of just crazy conservatives! And that Trump was always leading in the primary and now he isn't even after Clinton's worst week! And that Trump has no money, infrastructure, or GOTV operation, but you don't need that in a general right?
Totally similar!
Totally similar!
Officerrob
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The general election is not the GOP primary
It backfired in the REPUBLICAN primary. The general election is NOT made up of the extreme right wingers that turn out to vote in the R primaries.
By this logic we should all just lie down and roll out the red carpet for Trump because nothing worked on him in the primary.
Spoiled Milk
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This thread is great. Very left leaning but tons of smart people.
Define...normal.
I usually just lurk here but after that Pokemon GO thread, I don't even want to anymore. That escalated quickly.
This is definitely more normal than what was in OT.
This is definitely more normal than what was in OT.
shinra-bansho
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He's not the candidate. And there's a fuller slate in 8 years.
Also he's not the candidate.
And did I mention he's not the candidate.
I don't get why everyone wants a running mate that will potentially overshadow the candidate.
Haven't you seen Veep.
Also anything that adam thinks is a good idea is probably a bad one. And vice versa.
whyamihere
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Yes, I'm sure the Clinton team did no focus testing for suburban women about which things that Trump said made them most disgusted.
What happened?
Does she not know how to use Google? Also relevant comic from Twitter:
I hate this man so much
Probably a good idea but still........*cringe*
Those sorts are threads are good for letting you know who are legit Trump supporters and thus making mental shit lists.
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The Autumn Wind
But what does his mom think?
Seriously? Obama being more influential than West must have driven him crazier than we thought.
Can't believe Pence is the guy...
Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant the supporters seeing people think the vid was funny (for any reason) really made them think it was cool to be out and genuine in their support of him. And yes, it's disheartening but unsurprising.
The closet Trump supporters on GAF started coming out and going nuts over the video. At least the small gist of it.
Pence being the VP pick was so boring. Really was hoping he'd embrace Christie or Gengrich.
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