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I hope these fuckers get pepper sprayed and charged.
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This is a super ineffective way to talk to people about religion.
This guy is a gun owning Republican and he just owned both that Trump supporter nutjob Lady on the panel and Bill Maher himself all night long. That was the only reason I kept watching. This is the kind of Republican that no longer exists, since he said nobody except MAYBE law enforcement should even use AR-15s.
Col. Wilkerson spit fire on Maher's anti Islam agenda all night long too. Right at the end was the best, I think Bill was out of words so he ended the panel and went to the "New Rules" segment early.
Did anyone see this article yet by Jeet Heer. It pretty much talks in detail about how trump will be destroyed in the general by Hilary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/134366/donald-trump-will-buried-electoral-avalanche
https://newrepublic.com/article/134366/donald-trump-will-buried-electoral-avalanche
User 463088
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So, I've had about 3 emails and 2 phone calls from Hillary people in the last 48 hours. They're having a day of action today, and they're lining up volunteers. Pretty cool to see them in force this early. I couldn't go to the day of action, but I've signed up to volunteer. They said something about training and whatever, but still didn't have any information.
Good to hear they're not complacent (not that I expected them to be). And thanks in advance for helping out, if I lived in the US I would too. (Tips on what I can do from Europe are appreciated)
User 463088
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I *think* you can volunteer through the virtual phone bank even if you're not a US citizen. I'm like 99% sure on that. At least, you can if you're actually in the US. I don't know how it works for those outside the US. I know Bernie had quite a few people calling on his behalf from Europe. I got a phone call from someone in Germany, I think it was.
I can see how he came to that conclusion, and there was perhaps an element of truth he could have remained competitive leaning on that if he could have continued to get the same kind of coverage he had through the primaries.
However, I think he blew it with how he handled the Judge comments when he went after the press at large and a couple of individual journalists. I think a bunch of press people took that personally as since that day there seems to have been a tangible shift in coverage. He is getting called out and fact checked a LOT more than he was previously, and there is a lot less framing the thing as a "dead heat".
Annoying the press at the same time as the opposition nominee is confirmed amid powerful endorsements while you continue to double down on racist rhetoric isn't going to win you favorable TV coverage. I don't see how he pulls out of the media death spiral either given they smell blood. What they want to cover now is not a horse race, but a massive landslide.
Sopan Deb
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The Trump "We're gonna win" rant to end his speech tonight was amazing - in the top ten of 2016 for sure.
I can't wait for Trump to save the second amendment 100 percent! You're all going to be so upset at how much he's winning by.
The awesome thing now is that we are going to be constantly be hearing stories about how the republicans are in disarray until november.Also, the republicans can't get rid of him so they stuck with him until november.Trump's going to make more and more mistakes as we get deeper until the election which will help keep the media interested in covering the republicans struggling to deal with the guy.
Regarding religion, Maher and his types seem to have never had a serious discussion with religious people. They're just pushing anecdotes and extreme examples and then going "this is what religion is!!! How are people sooooo stupid?".
You'll never get anywhere like that. For a lot of people, their beliefs are a foundation of who they are, you can't shame them out of it. And I don't think that you should.
You'll never get anywhere like that. For a lot of people, their beliefs are a foundation of who they are, you can't shame them out of it. And I don't think that you should.
The crisis actors are getting so much better. Just look at the cell phone videos. I think the Lizard race is tightening its grip on our media, I really do.
Ignatz Mouse
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When stuff like this is leaked, it literally makes me feel better about any shenanigans, because if that's the worst a hacker found, then the DNC are clean as a whistle.
See also the dump of Clinton's email.
andthebeatgoeson
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Are we related?
this bernie guy, i mean really? didn't support obama and even contemplated a primary campaign against him in 2012 and now is literally and figuratively and whatever -ely you want to use, the only democrat (and i use that term loosely with Bern) to not endorse the first female nominee of a party. what a dope.
The quality has gone down the tubes between thoughtful Conservatives staying away and his rants on Islam.
His anti-Vax anti-GMO crap is pretty terrible too.
plagiarize
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I don't like people who get all high on themselves as they rag on the religious. Criticize religious organizations and entities, sure... but don't criticize the believers as if they 100% endorse all of that.
Maher and his dumb smug face really rub me the wrong way.
I'm a hard atheist. I'm 100% certain in and of myself that God doesn't exist... yet I can see all the good that religion can and does do, without being blinded to it by the bad. I've seen people find faith and really turn their lives around, and people lose it and plummet down into the darkness.
It can be misused. It can be corrupted. It can do harm... but so can a lot of things. Religion is 90% of the time (figure pulled out of my ass) something positive and affirmative. We can work to try and make that figure even higher. We should continue to promote religious freedom and separation of church and state...
But we shouldn't be going after beliefs. You literally can't stop everyone from believing something. You beat bad ideas with better ideas, not by banning the bad ones.
Jealous. Mine are talking about what positions they should run for. Including the nutter who previously said he wished it was legal to choke me to death. Maybe that'll be his platform.
StopMakingSense
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The Republican party at this point is not exactly renowned for sensible decision making.
It's not so much from the Presidential perspective, having Trump at the head of the Republican ticket is too good for the down ballot races to pass up.
TheLostBigBoss
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I don't see that happening though, Republicans turn out pretty much no matter what.
He can't really run independent at this point though, it's too late for him to get on the ballot in a lot of states.
Oh well, I'm sure things will be good either way.
I'll look into it, thanks!
TheLostBigBoss
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There's talk, but the forces that would need to come together to make this happen are about as disorganized as the Trump campaign.
The betting markets put his odds of actually getting the nomination at ~92%. That seems about right. It's also an historic low for someone who has clinched.
If we could get immigration reform and some improvements to Obamacare through, that alone would be fantastic.
They might just kill the fillibuster this time if they get control of both.
IggyChooChoo
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A rejected Trump would still be just as capable of monopolizing media airtime to savage the GOP nominee and shit-talk the party, regardless of whether he's actually running third-party. Their guy (let's say Paul Ryan) would never get a chance to define himself in a positive way or establish any legitimacy. It would just be conspiracy theories and howls of victimization to November and beyond, made even more powerful by the fact that the conspiracy was real and the establishment actually did victimize them. The only way I see a replacement GOP candidate doing even marginally ok (defined as keeping within 5-10 points of Hillary) is if Trump does something truly insane like dropping the n-word.
I'd be happy with one of those things.
That I doubt. Until the GOP finishes it's realignment it's too risky to attempt. I'd rather not lose everything if the shit hits the fan.
andthebeatgoeson
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Any gifs of Colbert writing the swastika on the chalk board?
I suppose so.
I guess I should just stop Diablosing and enjoy the ride.
Take a leaf out of Adam's book
Not that I can tell. If no one else does I'll make one tonight when I get home.
Ether_Snake
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I said it before the best the GOP can do at this point is remove Trump, and present no candidate and no opposition at all to Hillary, hoping it might give them arguments to undermine Hillary's legitimacy during her presidency. Their real goal is to find a narrative to justify their constant refusal to sign anything Hillary wills end to congress, because they sure as hell aren't getting the presidency.
TheLostBigBoss
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What
That doesn't make any sense.
"We are allowing Hillary to run unopposed, Hillary is illegitimate because she had no opponent!"
Frank the Great
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Too many Republicans are on record supporting Trump for any of these schemes to be feasible.
That two week polling bounce really screwed them. The party's failure to understand polling in general keeps fucking them over and I love it.
That two week polling bounce really screwed them. The party's failure to understand polling in general keeps fucking them over and I love it.
IggyChooChoo
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I suppose so.
I guess I should just stop Diablosing and enjoy the ride.
Take a leaf out of Adam's book
Even though I am confident this election is going to turn out well for us, it is a lot more stressful for me than prior ones, I guess because the republican base has never been this bad. Even if our odds are better, the stakes are worse. If a magical imp Reince Priebus appeared before me and offered me a bizarro universe in which the house and senate were under moderate, Romney-ish GOP control and Romney were also the candidate, but there was only a 55% chance of Hillary winning this fall, I would have to think hard about that offer.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It doesn't but run in Trump is the same thing
Quite an imagination you have. I'd be thinking about it too now that you put it that way.
Joe Shlabotnik
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It's why I was so pissed when McCain picked Palin in 2008. I was for Obama all the way but up until then it was nice to not be existentially worried about the election results for the first time in eight years.
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