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The Black Culture Thread |OT13| Kimba is the New Blacked
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The Faceless Master
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Jest Chillin
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To say ND intentionally designed Nadine after Kandyse and didn't consult or pay her is to say they did it with the intent on ripping her off. Nefarious may be strong but you get what I'm saying.Where did ND even comment on it?
So just being the basis of a character entitles someone to get paid? If so a whole lot of people deserve paychecks that never got one. Everything is derivative man and that includes visual design. There is only a problem if ND intentionally decided to rip her off or if they're intentionally trying to profit off of her and I seriously doubt it. I mean there's no way that I can fathom that the higher ups at ND knew about this and thought, "Let's not pay her and risk a lawsuit even though she would easily be affordable seeing as how she's a barely known sci fi actress."
Makes zero sense. Lohan makes sense. Ellen Page makes sense. Random supporting actress in Sci Fi film and tv? Doesn't make much sense to me.
who said anything about getting paid? I think everyone is talking about how they both look a like. Her not being well known doesn't take away from this fact.
ChamplooJones
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Do your homework before you post in any thread. I'm serious about this. Too many people get banned because they give their opinions without doing research about the topic at hand.
Jest Chillin
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Anyone referring to a lawsuit or needing to have secured her rights is talking about geting paid. The tone of that thread isn't one of "oh hey this is kind of funny right?" either.
Inspired by and straight taking someone's likeness ain't the same thing and you damn well know it. If I hear a song on the radio, I can't just lift the track, scrub the vocals and act like it's an original. ND is the Greg Land of gaming and this isn't the first time they've been called on it. But it's okay cause video games.
And it's a black woman so any fucks given automatically get an 80% discount.
1) Use your "white"/work/business voice when you post outside of this thread/other more "laid back" communities at all times.
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Or change your name and avvie.
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Jest Chillin
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They didn't straight take her likeness so there being a difference between the two doesn't matter.
You also keep making references to "it's happened before" but can you name one time it's happened outside of Ellen Page? Which was a lot closer of a facsimile, a Co-Main character (front and center in marketing), and a much bigger star that absolutely would've meant more sales.
That's a separate issue that has nothing to do with what I'm saying, so don't lay that at my door.
bolded: they clearly did
andthebeatgoeson
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TheBlackMarvel
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What are the obvious differences I'm missing?
Jest Chillin
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Nah. And you can check that thread for all the dueling gifs and photoshops. They look similar but it's not a straight copy. There's a reason that the only person to even realize they look similar at all was one dude. The game model doesn't even look close enough for people to have made the connection to the actress at a glance.
this takes all the way back to my original post "they changed her model just enough so they won't get sued"
I will agree to disagree though, and no way am I going back to any uncharted or FF 7 thread this month.
OR! She's just not that well known. Dunno why you going so hard for ND.
Odd thing for you to say when you consider that you're pretty much ascribing what others are saying in a separate thread to what we are saying here. The only thing that you've mentioned that actually relates to the discussion in this thread is that you don't agree that they took her likeness, when clearly they did.
Everyone that I know that has seen anything that Kandsye has ever done saw it immediately. The game model is obviously aged up and bulked up a bit, but any first year art student would be lying on the stand if they were called up to deny the source. That argument holds as much water as Ellen Page being used even though she's not a freckled faced teenager. And Kandsye ain't exactly a scrub or a nobody. She's very well known to sci fi viewers.
These two posts are the best advise you could get.
What, what did i do. ?
So lemme get this straight: ND designed the look of the character AFTER they cast Laura Bailey AND recorded most or all of her scenes? If that's it then I guess it's sort of a case of throwing a minority character in at the (figurative) last minute. It's become apparent that doing all this production for video games has different challenges compared to movies and TV. Maybe ND should have thought about that at an earlier point in the process.
When race is involved, certain members will defend anything. Check any thread where a black person has been victimized or killed and you find someone to defend it.
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The Faceless Master
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they really don't look alike,
like i said before, like Tyrese vs Tyson.
like i said before, like Tyrese vs Tyson.
The thing is Tyrese and Tyson are actually two different people...
Tyson yeah, Tyrese is debatable.
looks we going to need a vote on this guys
Tyrese is pure grade AAA corny
andthebeatgoeson
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FadedRevolution
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My barber fucked up my lineup. I didn't notice how bad it was until my wife saw it. I didn't look at it good enough due to trusting this dude. It's like he stopped trying to lineup in the middle of it. Smh gotta wait till tomorrow for it to get fixed.
Prototype Viktor
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It means you only listened to 2 good artist and one guy who use to be great
It ain't racism unless someome says nigger or burns a cross. Otherwise we don't know the whole story (even when we do).
Jest Chillin
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Any artist using a real person as a base is going to change them just enough for it to be a legal usage though. It happens in every medium and is the reason why "these events are coincidental..." language is included in everything.
But sure, if you think that's a 1:1 recreation of her my opinion isn't going to change yours so it is what it is.
But if she's not well known then why does it matter if the character looks similar? Replying to people is going hard now?
No, I definitely am not. I've replied specifically to things being expressed in this thread. I am not the dude to typically have these kinds of meta thread discussions just like I'm not the dude to drop links to other threads in here like, "look at this."
Well your anecdotal squad seems unique considering that this doesn't seem like a topic that was being discussed widely before the thread on Gaming side. Anecdote to Anecdote, I'm a big Sci Fi head and I'm familiar with her work but I didn't think of her at all when I saw that reveal. I don't think she's very well known. Recognizable, sure. But she's still mostly one off appearances or smaller supporting roles for the most part.
did she roast you pretty hard?
I don't understand, sorry.
Is it cause he asked to be banned.? or because i'm asking to know what he said. ?
Sorry again if i'm being a bit dense.
*rolls eyes*
Prototype Viktor
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How dare they have that fucking Reese's Pieces star in my sacred Rocky film franchise. Tempting my beautiful wife into salivating at that ripped, chistled fine young chocolate. Making her want to put him in her mouth...honey I'm going out for a film you stay home with the guns!
We'll just agree to disagree because we're not going anywhere. You keep saying that she's not the obvious source, but then say that "Any artist using a real person as a base is going to change them just enough for it to be a legal usage". Which is it?
I keep forgetting that Gaf is the entire known universe, and that people and communities that have common interests outside of the web simply do not exist. You not thinking that she is well known and immediately recognizable really has nothing to do with anything, but whatever. Obviously other here do, but go ahead any points that are presented when we say otherwise.
She may not be the first on the list of names that come up when you Google "South Africa Actress" (that's Charlize), but she makes the immediate image list, and has features that draw attention from that exclusive line up. Point being, she's obviously regarded higher than what you allot for her popularity.
I keep forgetting that Gaf is the entire known universe, and that people and communities that have common interests outside of the web simply do not exist. You not thinking that she is well known and immediately recognizable really has nothing to do with anything, but whatever. Obviously other here do, but go ahead any points that are presented when we say otherwise.
She may not be the first on the list of names that come up when you Google "South Africa Actress" (that's Charlize), but she makes the immediate image list, and has features that draw attention from that exclusive line up. Point being, she's obviously regarded higher than what you allot for her popularity.
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