That's overstating things.
hybrid that not only supports handheld, tv and tabletop but VR.I said that the only viable way for them is an hybrid console, not that they are going to do that…Sony can't even support the PSVR properly and you think they are going back to the handheld race…What's going to be PS5 handheld selling point?Look you can play some old PS5 games that are available in PC handhelds via steam but at full price
that's doesn't make any sense… Or going full Vita, making games exclusive for that platform. PS Portal is doing really good for Sony, i think that they are going to expand in that idea, maybe making some old PS2, PS3 that can run natively.
PC handhelds are not a factor.Look you can play some old PS5 games that are available in PC handhelds via steam but at full price
Yeah, but in 90% of cases it's nothing relevant.
I don't think k we can use those figures to judge the market today.
This is what I thought as well, the handheld would logically eat a share of home console's sales. But on the other hand, I don't think we've ever been on the situation of a home console launching alongside a handheld revision, so it's honestly hard to predict.
That sounds sensible to me, though I do think the home console can get to 110 million and then the handheld could do 30 million.
I'm thinking more on the line of 80/60, like, I do see a big enough part of PlayStation's market willing to abandon the home console route and opt for the handheld form factor that gen, especially with digital share being as big as it is nowadays.
- Pokémon Legends: Z-A
). There are a lot more first-party games from Nintendo every year than SIE games.
A next-gen leap doesn't have to come in the way of graphics, which is responsible by the GPU, but the CPU.
Mainly published by TPC.
A licensing deal with Koei Tecmo Games, the main publisher of the game. It's literally no different from Everybody's Golf World, which as I said, I did not include on Sony's list.
Quite the opposite, I don't count them because they're not mainly published by NCL.
Cool, but that's not what I was referring to. If something like Project Zero 5 were released in 2024 instead of 2014, I would have included it on Nintendo's list.
You realize that I included the Nintendo Switch 2 demo as well, right...?
Sony also published Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered, The Last of Us Part II Remastered and Days Gone Remastered, the latter two with new content as well. I did not include any port/remaster on either list, which is pretty fair.
I didn't because I stated from the very beginning that, since 2024, Sony has published over 6 new games each year. I thought their 2023 output was extremely weak.And you know that 2024 was a mid year for Nintendo because it was the end of the generation (can you make the same thing for 2023 or 2022?
Maybe if you count handheld exclusive games, but before 2021? Hardly. And they're pretty much on par since 2024.
Pro is a margins product. The portable/hybrid will have to be growth-oriented in its specs and pricing.
I have to admit this is the difficult thing. No matter how you look at it, if Sony allow regular SD cards as storage, it'll be cracked in no time and piracy will be rampant.
I think you're jumping the gun quite a bit with that.
The idea is for it to launch alongside the home PS6 console.
The ideal situation is for it to release at $450 vs. $650 for the PS6 me thinks. *If* they can get both systems down for another $50, then that would be great.
Also, obviously they don't want this, but there's no other way if they wanted this to be part of the PS6 family with the exact same architecture and all.
Only in Japan and you know it. These games are published by Nintendo in NA and Europe.
Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour is not a demo (I guess that you're talking about this game). A small game, maybe, a game that should have been included with the console, sure, but still not a demo. This game is its own thing.
It is different, Everybody's Golf: World Tour is funded by Bandai Namco and published by Bandai Namco everywhere. I mean, there are even Nintendo producers and developers who work on Hyrule Warriors. And again, the game is published in NA and Europe by Nintendo. Same thing for Pokémon. At least for me, it's not the same thing.
You actually did with Until Dawn.
In Japan, literally where the game is produced. If the eShop had an unified global publishing system like Google Play Store and App Store do, TPC would be the publisher worldwide, as we see with mobile releases like Pokémon Quest.
Not quite, they only own around 33% of it. They don't control the IP on their own.
Because that's not the logic I'm going to. If we're making a 2022 list, I would include Bayonetta 3, as NCL is the main publisher of that game even if they don't own the IP.
This is quite reductive and can apply to Nintendo as well for most years. I personally care for Lost Soul Aside, the trailers had good engagement on social media, what is the standard here?
It's literally a demo, maybe not based on a previous franchise or title, but a demo nonetheless. If I'm taking Gran Turismo out of the list, I'm doing that for Welcome Tour as well. At this point, who cares?
What makes you think that it's not the same case for Hyrule Warriors as well? It's the exact same case with Mario + Rabbids, Ubisoft and Koei Tecmo Games fund these games and decide when to release them, it's not up to Nintendo.
Which is a remake, it doesn't have a $10 upgrade like the other actual remasters. I see a lot of people calling TTYD a remaster, but I still see it as a remake and included it there.
The problem with PC handhelds is that most companies that do them have to get their margin entirely in the beginning, and they have no control over the game pipeline, so they can't time exclusives or launch games as part of a promo blitz.
And those sales will be likely be entirely considered as growth over the baseline because Sony has spent nearly a decade without a core handheld offering.
If it had its own GT and other exclusive would be a more attractive proposition.
It's not about the launch window, it's the fact that it's releasing ALONGSIDE the home console. Also, I don't see Sony stretching this gen for another year, but that's a different matter.
Yes. I don't think it's unlikely. I'm just expecting an initial announcement there, rather than a full blowout.
We'll see, I guess. If we don't hear anything official about it until early next year, it's not launching in 2026.
No it will likely have a mix of both (those who eschew a static console setup for handheld + handheld players who want to try something that's not Nintendo).
The PSP sold 80 million which is still more than the N64, GameCube, and Wii U combined (also more than the 3DS). It's also more then every single console (including Game Gear) that Sega ever sold. I wouldn't call the PSP a failure by any means whether piracy was rampant or not. Sony has only released 1 console being the Vita which sold less then 80 million units.
The only they can get to that $399 price tag is by having a core processing module that is sold as a standalone device and call it PS6 mini.
I think if PSP just played PS2 games then wouldn't have had so many people own a PSP and a PS2
I mean fair enough - 3rd party libraries are probably largely comparable (probably well over 98% overlap), and majority of them look and run better on PS4.
Well that's just the thing - even with hw-slowdown the software has consistently failed to keep up for awhile now, and the differentiation is increasingly less impactful.
I'm talking about how they sell and promote the device - not physical limitations.
That's not coming from me - it's been at the core of every supposedly confirmed rumour about this. I completely agree it's a terrible idea, but someone needs to explain that to the leakers and Digital Foundry and co. (And Sony - if there's any truth to the rumours).
Right now all we know are rumours. So either we accept the PS6-lite chipset and lack of direct PS5 compat - or we accept that we know nothing - but then there's nothing to discuss yet.
It's not literal PS5 hardware being crammed into a mobile form factor, it's mobile hardware based on PS6's architecture.
I would rather have an affordable portable capable of playing old gen games (PS1 up to PS4) than a current gen portable that would have a 2h at best battery life and would cost tons of money.
If they are really trying to make a PS5/PS6 portable, this shit will fail so hard.
I mean, let's be honest, how much stuff would we really miss if nothing from PS5 *ever* gets patched if stuff like, say, Metaphor: ReFantazio from October 2024 will be playable day one just from the fact that it had a PS4 version almost 11 years after the console launched?
