BreezyLimbo
Banned
We can do a quick run if you can rough it through the next 40 minutes. I've already done it twice <3
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Destiny |OT33| Hey Luke, What's the Theme for King's Fall? (Unmarked Spoilers)
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We can do a quick run if you can rough it through the next 40 minutes. I've already done it twice <3
robertsan21
Member
Gunsmith questions.
How does the weapon packages work?
I am rank 4 now with the gunsmith.
How many packages can I buy of him for coming Armsday?
if I buy all packages that I can for this armsday, can I pick the same amount of packages the coming week?
I want to find a perfect rolled sniper so if I have picked 1 sniper package, do I need to confirm the purchase the coming arms day or can I just leave it in my inventory for the next week and see if the roll on it will be different?
How does the weapon packages work?
I am rank 4 now with the gunsmith.
How many packages can I buy of him for coming Armsday?
if I buy all packages that I can for this armsday, can I pick the same amount of packages the coming week?
I want to find a perfect rolled sniper so if I have picked 1 sniper package, do I need to confirm the purchase the coming arms day or can I just leave it in my inventory for the next week and see if the roll on it will be different?
Twilight Gap
Member
Also, pre-nerf Suros Regime is relevant to this weapon discussion again.
I vividly recall playing a sweaty skirmish game on Twilight Gap with Math sometime last year. We were losing and I was getting annoyed that I was basically the only one getting kills because Math was using a Hand Cannon. So I asked her "Why are you using a Hand Cannon when everyone else is using an Auto Rifle?" Her response was that she "didn't like Auto Rifles."
This didn't make sense to me. Auto Rifles were clearly better, so why would you use anything else and put yourself at a disadvantage?
For most of this year, Hand Cannons were in Auto Rifles place. Why would you use anything but Thorn or The Last Word? You'd just get killed by those guns in an instant. That wasn't fun for people who didn't want to use those guns and it wasn't even fun for people who did.
Fast forward to today, where she said that she felt like there's no reason to use Hand Cannons anymore.
And that's because all of these weapons take the same amount of skill and same limitations, yet are different on an archetypal level. And that means that every time an archetype is changed, the next best archetype will become the meta by default regardless of the skill of the players.
This is not how Destiny's sandbox should work.
If Pulse Rifles were the most difficult weapon to use in the game right now, I wouldn't give two shits about what they were able to do. Their potential would be proportionate to the skill required to use them, and therefore they would be balanced. Currently however, just as Hand Cannons and Autos were before, the rewards are disproportionate to the skill required to earn them. Any Average Joe can excel with the best gun, so there is no reason to willingly and knowingly disadvantage yourself by using a lesser weapon.
I vividly recall playing a sweaty skirmish game on Twilight Gap with Math sometime last year. We were losing and I was getting annoyed that I was basically the only one getting kills because Math was using a Hand Cannon. So I asked her "Why are you using a Hand Cannon when everyone else is using an Auto Rifle?" Her response was that she "didn't like Auto Rifles."
This didn't make sense to me. Auto Rifles were clearly better, so why would you use anything else and put yourself at a disadvantage?
For most of this year, Hand Cannons were in Auto Rifles place. Why would you use anything but Thorn or The Last Word? You'd just get killed by those guns in an instant. That wasn't fun for people who didn't want to use those guns and it wasn't even fun for people who did.
Fast forward to today, where she said that she felt like there's no reason to use Hand Cannons anymore.
And that's because all of these weapons take the same amount of skill and same limitations, yet are different on an archetypal level. And that means that every time an archetype is changed, the next best archetype will become the meta by default regardless of the skill of the players.
This is not how Destiny's sandbox should work.
If Pulse Rifles were the most difficult weapon to use in the game right now, I wouldn't give two shits about what they were able to do. Their potential would be proportionate to the skill required to use them, and therefore they would be balanced. Currently however, just as Hand Cannons and Autos were before, the rewards are disproportionate to the skill required to earn them. Any Average Joe can excel with the best gun, so there is no reason to willingly and knowingly disadvantage yourself by using a lesser weapon.
Orthogonal
Member
Consider yourself lucky, the Raid AR is hot garbage.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Each rank you can buy an extra package/order. Dunno the limit.
At rank 4, you should be able to get 4? I think?
Yes, you can. Depending on your rank, you get up to 3 or 4 choices per weapon package. At rank 2 you get 2 chioces, rank 3 you get 3 chioces, I dunno after that though.
And I've done it over 50 times being a Spindle Sherpa and all.
Depending on your level, the more packages you can take from banshees store.
After rank 3, you get 3 choices on each package, 3 rolls of the weapon packages you picked come arms day.
No matter if your rank 3, or 103 with banshee, you will only get 3 choices for the gear you picked.
But to your question, you will be able to grab 4 packages at level 4.<FALSE>
EDIT: 3 packages no matter your level.
At higher levels than 3, you can only grab 3 packages. Thank you for correction.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
And I've done it over 50 times being a Spindle Sherpa and all.I meant I have to wait and see if Lost to Light is the Daily Mission today so I can continue helping other people get their Black Spindles.
Oh my. Well, my Hunter still needs it..
Twilight Gap
Member
i don't know what the point of raid loot is this time around. i can't say i've gotten anything from the raid worth keeping. i haven't infused the sniper yet because its scope is cool, but that's about it.
If Lost to Light is today's Daily Story mission, send me a PM to get on the waiting list. Chances are you'll be the first on it.
robertsan21
Member
OK thanks.
So do i need to pick a weapon from the packaged I currently have in my inventory? or can I leave it for the week after to see if the rolls are different? Maybe I am not just happy about the rolls he brings next week.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I'm sure I can find/lead a group to it~ I'm BreezyLimbo, best platform jumper in the world, I don't need help.
The machine gun is pretty nice imo. My first drop and only one im using
Citizen_Insane
Member
No. They took away the rep boost from the Nightfall, unfortunately.
Never tried keeping a package for long enough to see if it gets new rolls.
The rolls are usually pretty polarized from each other, but some guns are just garbage no matter what kind of roll you get with them.
(hakke sniper had super shitty rolls, dismantled)
I will leave the decision to withhold your package at your discretion.
Acidote
Member
That's what I thought. He assured me it was only the xp part that was removed and that I was missing rep with the gunsmith because of that :-/
Orthogonal
Member
So far, all my Raid weapons (Shotgun, AR an Sniper) have been Infusion fuel. They all pale in comparison to better Vendor Weapons. From what I have seen, the Machine Gun is the only Raid weapon worth a damn. Maybe during hard raid/challenge mode, the Bonus Taken damage will make them must haves.
Only gotten 2 pieces of armor so far, Boots 2x
300 is so close, yet so far away, just need different armor drops. Please Bungie.
That's all predicated on the concept that the MM should focus around one gun trumping another which trumps another etc. The menu system isn't exactly friendly when it comes to swapping loadouts mid-match, so a lot of the time (at least on 360) you're more or less stuck with what you had equipped coming in. Primarily for that reason, I kinda like the way one gun will generally perform well on any given map. It sucks if you don't have the top-tier gun available to you, but between vendors and armsday it's getting pretty hard to be really solidly screwed as far as that goes, at least for very long. And it's nice to be able to have a favourite gun and use it every match and not eat shit every time a particular archetype of maps comes up. Plays to that building your character and having a character identity thing.
You get max 3 per week per character, and each one will have max 3 rolls to choose from. You can keep buying 3 per week per character every week provided you have the glimmer and the patience lol
EJRobinson90
Member
So far, all my Raid weapons (Shotgun, AR an Sniper) have been Infusion fuel. They all pale in comparison to better Vendor Weapons. From what I have seen, the Machine Gun is the only Raid weapon worth a damn. Maybe during hard raid/challenge mode, the Bonus Taken damage will make them must haves.
Only gotten 2 pieces of armor so far, Boots 2x
300 is so close, yet so far away, just need different armor drops. Please Bungie.
I would say the raid pulse rifle is also pretty solid. Probably my most used weapon nowadays, aside from Hung Jury. Got mine with Firefly, but I would love one with Life Support.
The Machine Gun refuses to drop for me, I'm swimming in 300 Hand Cannons though T_T
4 packages? I'd better head to tower and check this out...
Edit: mine says max orders placed - 3 orders placed and I've been rank 4 since last week.
NoHeDidn't
Member
Annnnd im done with the Warsats turned in quest 4 minutes before reset which was awesome incase it has a time limit.
Acidote
Member
The raid pulse is my main gun nowadays. Rolled 307. Need 310!
What? You get nothing from doing the NF. Besides the NF loot of course.
Twilight Gap
Member
Well there shouldn't be "archetypes of maps" either. It's why I'm not exactly fond of the range nerfs.
A well designed map wouldn't decide for the player which weapon they're supposed to use.
Please do to correct or confirm.
Currently I am rank 3, friends at rank 4 are all I have to go by.
robertsan21
Member
ok cool
I got that Eirene RR4 with Luck in the chamber. One hit sniper with some luck
But need something more reliable.
My 1000 Yard stare is quite nice with Guerilla fighter, Smallbore, unflinching,
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Did the ss item disappear??
NoHeDidn't
Member
Ive been stuck at 297 for going on week 2 now i really need to get in the raid soon and do some t3 if only i could get a t3 rune.
Citizen_Insane
Member
Anything new on the quest after reset? Making us wait until Arms Day completely kills all the momentum that's been built. I hate all these time gates.
MiloFoxburr
Member
Gunsmith has a new quest "The sleeper stirs"
Fallen Saber strike @ 280 light apparently
Nope.
Nope, but if you use the new Manage Gear Beta on the website you can filter by weapon/item type or search by name.
And then drag and drop the item to your character.
CouchMaster
Member
New Gunsmith quest lol
Citizen_Insane
Member
MrAnderson
Member
Hopefully we are able to turn in the core to the gunsmith today and get this new sleeper quest....if you had to do all of it yesterday I'll be kinda pissed.
Agreed
Zombie Lyle
Member
Saw this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyThe..._exotic_quest_from_banshee_the_sleeper_stirs/
Will I still be able to do the warsat patrols from yesterday?