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[PlayStaytion]

How does only 3x upgrade makes sense for a generational leap? This would make ps6 on par with the absolute lowest end gpu's at the time rtx7060 in 2028. If you think ps5 launch was already bad, around twice slower than 30 series, this would look even more pathetic.

The Document for 2023 and obviously will change, 5 years gap is way too early to talk about specs.

 

[PlayStaytion]

That's not the real issue.
TLOU2 on PS4 is an example of not to be worried about the specs. Especially with improvements to A.I.

The real issue is handheld imo.
I'm all for supporting it with cross gen titles, but when it comes supporting it with 10th gen only games is the real issue.

Those handheld specs start to limit the generation leap.

It's a little brother of an old brother who never existed. Like the series s but a lot nicer than that.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

It's a little brother of an old brother who never existed. Like the series s but a lot nicer than that.

Series S is very nice.

Compact, completely silent.

Don't believe everything on the internet.

 

[Gaiff]

Don't believe everything on the internet.

Starting with this.

Series S is very nice.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Based on this PS6 raster target could be around 5070 which is similar to PS5 targeting 2070 in 2020. That's about 20% lower raster performance than 9700 XT. Magnus could be around 5080 raster performance.

The big unknown is RT/PT performance (that was also unknown for PS5 as many were thinking it wouldn't even have hardware RT).

 

[SolidQ]

AMD GATE: Geometry-Aware Trained Encoding
https://gpuopen.com/download/GATE.pdf

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The Document for 2023 and obviously will change, 5 years gap is way too early to talk about specs.

Not entirely true as they are already talking approx what specs (hardware wise especially) they can achieve for a set price many years in advance.

I know once Xbox was done with their current hardware before it even launched the team was already starting on the next generation

 

[FireFly]

How does only 3x upgrade makes sense for a generational leap? This would make ps6 on par with the absolute lowest end gpu's at the time rtx7060 in 2028. If you think ps5 launch was already bad, around twice slower than 30 series, this would look even more pathetic.

The 5060 is about 40% faster than the 3060, which launched 4 years before. So at that same rate of improvement, in 2029 we would expect the 60 series card to be as fast as the 3080.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Based on this PS6 raster target could be around 5070 which is similar to PS5 targeting 2070 in 2020. That's about 20% lower raster performance than 9700 XT. Magnus could be around 5080 raster performance.

The big unknown is RT/PT performance (that was also unknown for PS5 as many were thinking it wouldn't even have hardware RT).

ML is a big unknown. Huge research is going on to figure out how to deploy ML in various elements of rendering.

 

[Diego Brasil]

They're talking a lot about the GPU, but what about the CPU? Is it a good improvement compared to the base PS5 CPU?Maybe it's 3x more powerful because of the CPU?

 

[vaibhavpisal]

They're talking a lot about the GPU, but what about the CPU? Is it a good improvement compared to the base PS5 CPU?Maybe it's 3x more powerful because of the CPU?

CPU is nothing to be concerned about.

Even most entry level AM5 chips are quiet capable.

 

[Loxus]

Amd always does this, the problem is they're always playing catch up. Even with FSR they are behind DLSS: still no Ray reconstruction, still no ai frame gen, still no multi frame gen. Think about it this way AMDs brand new 2025 350mm² chip (9070xt) can't even beat Nvidias 370mm² 2022 chip (4080) in raster let alone at RT and it's even worse at PT.

Its never a question of will AMD progress enough to where Nvidia *used to be*, it's whether AMD will catch up where Nvidia is today. I'm sure RDNA5 will finally beat the 4090, but guess what the 4090 came out in 2022 not 2027. By then the 6090 will be out and guess what AMD is going to be behind again, they have been outpaced since Maxwell came out in 2014, it's been 11 years of this shit. Hopefully next gen is different but at this point the boy has cried wolf 1000 times so who's to believe him.

My point is the amount of progress AMD made with RDNA4 and FSR4, even with CDNA4. AMD has a very good chance of matching Nvidia next gen.