Concord real open beta is live

ManaByte said:
The people cancelling this game over pronouns on one screen are absolutely no different than the woke idiots who boycotted Hogwarts Legacy. It's two sides of the same coin of stupid.
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It's obviously not just the pronouns, it's the deliberately ugly characters, the cringe af Disney-fied presentation and """"""""humor""""""", the obvious forced diversity in the character roster to he point you know they were patting themselves in the back as they were making it, the annoying dialogue and so on

Don't get me wrong, I don't give a shit about anything other than gameplay with most games but if everything else about the game is fucking annoying or pretentious, sorry but I'm not giving it a chance anymore. I used to but my patience has run out with this kind of bullshit
 
dreamstation said:
Why do people think every multiplayer shooter should be free to play? And then we have cod which nobody bats an eyelid when people buy the same rehashed shit every year?
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Because this looks like an f2p game and will have microtransactions like an f2p game.

COD has been at the top for almost 2 decades and offers a more complete game so they can get away with charging. Concord is a generic looking new IP from a nobody studio.
 
dreamstation said:
Why do people think every multiplayer shooter should be free to play? And then we have cod which nobody bats an eyelid when people buy the same rehashed shit every year?
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I hate COD with passion, while acknowledging that it's the biggest shooter franchise and perennial top seller for 3 generations straight. You can't compare any brand-new IP to COD. The standards aren't the same.
 
BigBeauford said:
And yet people still made HL one of the highest selling games of the year. You are unknowingly making the argument that the audience Concord is courting doesn't actually exist.
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HL got carried by the license alone though.

Concord is a completely new franchise.
 
Killjoy-NL said:
It never was really polished.
It was the gunplay and the art direction where it shines, but technically it was really rough around the edges.
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When you actually play the game is smooth as fuck, it never has slowdowns no matter what happen on screen.

Yeah it can have a lot of bugs and shit but the actual gameplay is smooth as butter all the time.

(At least on pc)
 
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GymWolf said:
When you actually play the game is smooth as fuck, it never has slowdowns no matter what happen on screen.

Yeah it can have a lot of bugs and shit but the actual gameplay is smooth as butter all the time.

(At least on pc)
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PS5 is the same. I think PS5 has even far better performance than PC (i.e. less issues).

That's why it's a shame Firewalk had to go Woke.
 
Yeah its one of the best performing games this year. So technically great, but thats not thr problem, its just boring. Its worth a go over a weekend but I cant see it having legs like others. It doesnt have that one more go vibe.
 
GymWolf said:
I mean, hd2 is also a way, way better game than concord, it's not just about going woke.
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I don't know if I would go that far.

HD2 becomes repetitive real quick and once you unlock everything, there is little reason to continue playing, imo.
Sense of progression stops at that point, making the grind pointless outside of seeing your rank rise, which is pointless as well.

Each game has it's pros and cons.

Woke is just a very big and obvious con for Concord.
 
Killjoy-NL said:
I don't know if I would go that far.

HD2 becomes repetitive real quick and once you unlock everything, there is little reason to continue playing, imo.
Sense of progression stops at that point, making the grind pointless outside of seeing your rank rise, which is pointless as well.

Each game has it's pros and cons.

Woke is just a very big and obvious con for Concord.
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I (and many other that praised hd2 but not concord) definitely would, i have almost 200 hours in hd2 but i was already done with concord after 3 matches, so i don't agree about the boring part at all.

Even if you unlock everything, the gameplay to me is way more fun than anything concord can offer, the gunplay is concord is decent, in hd2 is top class, that already make a huge difference to me.

And i feel like hd2 has way more promising and interesting ways to expand the game over concord, the team is just not big enough to do it at a steady pace.
 
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GymWolf said:
I (and many other that praised hd2 but not concord) definitely would, i have almost 200 hours in hd2 but i was already done with concord after 3 matches, so i don't agree about the boring part at all.

Even if you unlock everything, the gameplay to me is way more fun than anything concord can offer, the gunplay is concord is decent, in hd2 is top class, that already make a huge difference to me.

And i feel like hd2 has way more promising and interesting ways to expand the game over concord, the team is just not big enough to do it at a steady pace.
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That's preference though.

I've put 171hrs into HD2, so that's almost as much as you and I haven't really played the game since we beat the Automatons back then, as there was little left to unlock for me.

In that sense, Concord could potentially offer me much more playtime if they would have something like ranked matches, due to it's competitive nature.

But like I said, both games have their pros and cons and are too different to really compare directly.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
COD has a free version called Warzone and they can charge full priced game for MP because people want to play it
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Ogbert said:
It's a tired, derivative, boring multiplayer game that would have been outdated five years ago. The pronoun stuff just compounds an already rubbish product.

There is zero point investing time in this game. It's done much better elsewhere.

Dead on arrival.
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Given how many shooters there are in the market. Some good, some bad, some F2P, some budget priced, some full priced, I'm a believer that unless it's a tried and true franchise which can (and always had charged good money for it since the franchise came out 10 or 20 years ago), that a new shooter should be F2P. Amp it up with Mtx to make back some money, but the biggest issue GAAS games has is getting gamers to try it. And nothing is better than free. Asking a gamer to risk $40 or $70 on a new shooter they dont know if it sucks or community is tiny isnt worth the risk for many gamers. They'll just stick to Fortnite or COD.

And if the game is a big success than either stick with F2P model, or charge money for it next game.
 
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Killjoy-NL said:
Most people who played it seem to like it (the gameplay at least), the problem is that most people don't even bother to try it.

Nobody here is arguing against that. I think it's safe to say that everybody st least agrees that they fucked up the reveal and that it created the issue they encounter right now.

The biggest question is how Firewalk is going to move on from here on out?
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Honestly best case scenario for them is the game gets shot down and the studio is moved to work on another title even if in supporting role.

IMO, the longer Sony keeps throwing cash at supporting it, the bigger the chance their finance people will push for studio closure.
 
Killjoy-NL said:
That's preference though.

I've put 171hrs into HD2, so that's almost as much as you and I haven't really played the game since we beat the Automatons back then, as there was little left to unlock for me.

In that sense, Concord could potentially offer me much more playtime if they would have something like ranked matches, due to it's competitive nature.

But like I said, both games have their pros and cons and are too different to really compare directly.
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Is it really personal preference when one was a huge success, praised by everyone and their mother (at 40 dollars price point) and this one seems like a huge bomba even when free?

Even less than a personal preference when it comes to gunplay imo, one is clearly superior to the other, let's be real (and if you think otherwise we can really stop discussing here, no offense:lollipop_grinning_sweat: )

I can see putting another 100 hours easily when they are gonna release the new enemy faction in hd2.

What they are gonna add to concord? Another lame ass looking character? Another game mode similar to the other hero shooters? Another boring looking map?

Imo the potential of expansion of hd2 is light years higher than concord.
 
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GHG said:
Saw this before your edit. You're a moron, this game is shit and I've said so since the very first time we saw it. The Steam player numbers and eventual steam review scores will 100% reflect that.

The problem is that you have a blind spot and can't seem to call out shit or subpar products when it comes to a certain corporation. Crap products get an adequate response from the gaming community, get used to it.

Keep chugging.

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I guess everyone on the forum can wait for this game to release to witness you post screenshots of its Steam user reviews and daily player counts. We all know how much you enjoy doing that.

and, I'm the moron lol
 
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Played two round of this last night.

Not sure if I've ever seen Playstation blow something harder than this one.

The music, textures, resolution and presentation are all outstanding. The characters and overall gameplay are atrocious. The main green character seems like he tried to copy the horrible and cringe acting style of Tom Holland.

The movement and aiming feels awful, there is extreme aim assist that you can't shut off as far as I can tell. The maps look really sick but are boring as hell.

The matchmaking also doesn't add new players in mid game when other ones back out, causing unbalanced matches.

The end of round animations aren't even animated which juts comes off as amateur at this point.

I thought this was going to be a single player 70's themed space game when it was announced. That's what it should have been. This is going to be DOA.
 
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GymWolf said:
Is it really personal preference when one was a huge success, praised by everyone and their mother (at 40 dollars price point) and this one seems like a huge bomba even when free?
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One has a high nostalgia-factor due to the dudebro Starship-Troopers/Terminator setting,
the other is Woke.

Pretty sure preference plays a large part in the general reception.
GymWolf said:
Even less than a persinal preference when it comes to gunplay imo, one is clearly superior to the other, let's be real.
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I'd argue both are equal as far as gunplay goes.
GymWolf said:
I can see putting another 100 hours easily when they are gonna release the new enemy faction in hd2.

What they are gonna add to concord? Another lame ass looking character? Another game mode similar to the other hero shooters? Another boring looking map?

Imo the potential of expansion of hd2 is light years higher than concord.
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Literally everything you say here comes down to personal preference.
 
ManaByte said:
It also crashed and burned once its flash-in-the-pan meme status ended.
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Now that you mention it, CCU for HD2 on Steam plummeted after the PSN account "drama", which was just as petty as people getting worked up to this extent over pronouns and the Woke vibe of Concord.
 
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FoxMcChief said:
I think it's just the last straw, and or that they are upset that it comes from a now first party developer for one of the big three (two?).
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Honestly, I think the borderline comical levels of acidity here has something to do with the game itself being a lot better than some people were likely hoping for. Can't bitch about the quality of the game? Then scream about fringe shit (at least half of which has been dreamed up by the mob) until the place becomes too inhospitable for any level-headed discussion about the game itself. Fucking clowns and their battle against windmills.

And that's not even counting the bona fide retards.
 
DonkeyPunchJr said:
2023-2024 is the era of woke games releasing after 6+ years of development and flopping.

Wonder what's next… probably Dragon Age Veilguard, Avowed, and Fable
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Bioware is so cooked, they gave the most wish-wash response about why Blood Magic is not in their next game, saying they are "moving away" from that kind of stuff... HAHAHAHAAH Veilguard will bomb hard. and as has been done before Bioware will blame their failured on gamers and not on themselves.
 
ManaByte said:
It also crashed and burned once its flash-in-the-pan meme status ended.
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That game has now been paid countless times. It could end tomorrow and it would've been a huge success story for Sony. Whatever they earn now is just a bonus at this point. No way in hell Sony expected a small game made by a small team (from a studio that's not even theirs) to sell over 12M copies. If that game manages to maintain around 20k or 10k players consistently, they can run it for a long time.

The first game also had a small but stable fanbase...that's how this sequel was greenlit.

I don't think anyone expected Helldivers 2 to be the next Fortnite, Counter Strike, etc.
 
Killjoy-NL said:
Neither is f2p. Wut u talking about?🤨
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What confuse you?

He said that hd2 crash and burned and i said that even now it make way higher numbers than concord when you don't even have to pay to play right now.

Do you forgot the free open beta?

But i guess the open beta doesn't count for some bizzarre reason i guess.

I'm sure the people who doesn't even want to try the game for free are gonna buy en masse when the game is gonna cost 40 dollars, i'm sure of that...
 
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AltogetherAndrews said:
Honestly, I think the borderline comical levels of acidity here has something to do with the game itself being a lot better than some people were likely hoping for. Can't bitch about the quality of the game? Then scream about fringe shit (at least half of which has been dreamed up by the mob) until the place becomes too inhospitable for any level-headed discussion about the game itself. Fucking clowns and their battle against windmills.

And that's not even counting the bona fide retards.
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Yeah, that must be it. The game is perfect and awesome. It's just the damn bigots.
 
GymWolf said:
What confuse you?

He said that hd2 crash and burned and i said that even now it make way higher numbers than concord when you don't even have to pay to play right now.

Do you forgot the free open beta?

But i guess the open beta doesn't count for some bizzarre reason i guess.

I'm sure the people who doesn't even want to try the game for free are gonna buy en masse when the game is gonna cost 40 dollars, i'm sure of that...
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Open beta doesn't make it f2p though. And if it were f2p, that alone would make general perception a lot more different.
 
Killjoy-NL said:
Open beta doesn't make it f2p though. And if it were f2p, that alone would make general perception a lot more different.
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The point doesn't change dude, let's not make it a question of semantics, the beta right now is free to play and it's not even a restricted demo with 3 charas and one mode that can get boring fast...it's a big preview of the game.

Mana tried to troll hd2 numbers (comical coming from a disney star wars shill) but even a "crash and burned" game has way higher numbers than something that you can fucking play for free right now.

This is how much fucks people give about concord, perception or not.
 
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GymWolf said:
The point doesn't change dude, let's not make it a question of semantics, the beta right now is free to play and it's not even a restricted demo with 3 charas and one mode that can get boring fast...it's a big preview on the game.

Mana tried to troll hd2 numbers but even a "crash and burned" game has way higher numbers than something that you can fucking play for free right now.

This is how much fucks people give about concord, perception or not.
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People said wait for the actual open beta but looking right now

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GymWolf said:
I'm sure the people who doesn't even want to try the game for free are gonna buy en masse when the game is gonna cost 40 dollars, i'm sure of that...
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Maybe even going free isn't enough. They should consider PAYING people to play it.

Seriously. Hire a few thousand gamers and pay them $10 per hour to play this game. Considering how much Sony already spent to buy this studio and develop the game over several years, what's a few million $ more to create the illusion that people want it?
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
I think HD2 is still pulling very respectable numbers and sure not crashed and burned
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I find matches in seconds at any hour of the day, that's enough for me, i can only play with other 3 people at once, i don't need 400.000 people constantly playing the game.
 
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People saying that Helldivers 2 crashed and burned… What are you doing people. You couldn't log in for days on end because of server capacity. They sold more than 12 million copies. You matchmake in seconds if you go in the game right now and have a full team at anytime.

It's not world of Warcraft, sure, it was never meant to be.
 
GymWolf said:
The point doesn't change dude, let's not make it a question of semantics, the beta right now is free to play and it's not even a restricted demo with 3 charas and one mode that can get boring fast...it's a big preview on the game.

Mana tried to troll hd2 numbers (comical coming from a disney star wars shill) but even a "crash and burned" game has way higher numbers than something that you can fucking play for free right now.

This is how much fucks people give about concord, perception or not.
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Nobody gave a fuck about FFXIV either when it launched.

Things can change. That's the benefit of Gaas.

But like I said, that's up to Firewalk and Sony, if they will try to appease the majority or go down this path to please a minority (Woke).
 
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