ViewtifulJC
Banned
DMC1's camera tho...
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Neither have most of the people in this thread shitting on Platinum/Clover, or any Platinum/Clover game. Their games sell awful but I've never played a bad or even an average one. Their "worst" game was God Hand in terms of production values/polish, and that game was still fun.
Clover/Platinum's main problem is that their series are the definition of niche, but the budgets are for high end mass market games (hell Bayonetta's budget got so bad it didn't even get full animated cut scenes all the way through).
It's just not a good formula when it comes to business. Why Nintendo saved Bayonetta? I don't know. As a Bayonetta fan I'll eventually play it at some point, so I appreciate the save, but it was dumb. At the very least, they could have had them make 3DS titles, where they could have at least sold Vita numbers.
But I love this shit. And everyone who works with me when things pop off say I'm great like Luffy.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Because they put it on the most poo ass console imaginable.
Boombloxer
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DMC 1's camera, weapon selection, overall level design, combat system, and story are worse than 3, and boss fights pale in every way compared to 3.
It's not close. DMC3:SE is the superior game.
More garbage. It's more like:
DMC3 SE = NG1 = GOW3 > God of War 2 = DMC4 > DMC 1 = Viewtiful Joe = God of War = MGR > God Hand = Otogi 1 & 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bayonetta
I really couldn't get into at all, and I tried. Same thing with Vanquish.
I've played them all, it's not really a debate as to if they are well-made games, they just don't click with a lot of people and don't sell. I can acknowledge something being deep and technical even if I don't like it or couldn't get into it.
Loved Okami, enjoyed Viewtiful Joe, came to appreciate God Hand, but aside from MGR, nothing has blown me away.
It's not close. DMC3:SE is the superior game.
More garbage. It's more like:
DMC3 SE = NG1 = GOW3 > God of War 2 = DMC4 > DMC 1 = Viewtiful Joe = God of War = MGR > God Hand = Otogi 1 & 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bayonetta
I really couldn't get into at all, and I tried. Same thing with Vanquish.
I've played them all, it's not really a debate as to if they are well-made games, they just don't click with a lot of people and don't sell. I can acknowledge something being deep and technical even if I don't like it or couldn't get into it.
Loved Okami, enjoyed Viewtiful Joe, came to appreciate God Hand, but aside from MGR, nothing has blown me away.
Yeah, God of War is a more casual experience.
Nintendo was the only one willing to save it.
Boombloxer
Member
That's intentional though. 3 to me still has the best combat system, but is it as deep as DMC or others? Nah.
But it crushes the rest in every other area, from set-pieces to graphics to story; all of that combined is why I enjoy it so much. Ascension...well, I understood what they tried to do, even if it didn't really work for a lot of people.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
God of War tho? Stop it 5.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I actually like GoW2 more than any of the DMC games. Doesn't have the depth of Bayo/NG/DMC, but it gets by just fine. More importantly, I think it's an exceptionally well-paced and well-rounded game, with some wonderful art direction, great level design, large variety of enemies and locations, great music, etc. It's kinda the complete package, where DMC3/4 have a great combat system, but I find it pretty lackluster in several other areas as a complete game.
I feel similar about Godhand. Great, clever, funny combat system that plays like no other game before or since, mediocre everything else(cept a few great tunes now and again).
I feel similar about Godhand. Great, clever, funny combat system that plays like no other game before or since, mediocre everything else(cept a few great tunes now and again).
You're funny.
Ninja Gaiden games beat out those Animu may cry and Bayobroken games by miles.
Angelus Errare
Banned
NGB is dope everything else from the NG series sucks the ass of a 1000 bronies at a MLP convention.
Man my niece sold more candy door to door than Wonderful 101 did on Wii U.
Man my niece sold more candy door to door than Wonderful 101 did on Wii U.
Boombloxer
Member
Nope, God of War is the better package to me. God of War 2 might be the best overall adventure up there--the tour de force of Greek myths and cliffhanger ending was one of the main reasons I bought a PS3.
Was pretty pissed when I discovered Sigma had no Intercept.
Ok? Some good/great games bomb.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
GoW 2 is probably the best one. The mechanics were fun to mess around with.
I prefer the Onimusha series to all of GoW, especially the first one. That screen tearing was awful.
I prefer the Onimusha series to all of GoW, especially the first one. That screen tearing was awful.
That you can skip leg day because you always putting your foot in your mouth? Or that you are irrelevant to everyone except for the 5 people that pinned their hopes and dreams on a resurrected flop?
Boombloxer
Member
Ah, Onimusha--I enjoyed that series too, but 4 was bleh--even if it did have SF costumes and themed music.
I liked 3 the best, was fairly sad that we got nothing this generation from the series.
Maybe if more PS360 owners bought the damn game in the first place, it wouldn't be a Wii U exclusive.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Yay Capcom. :/
It's all about shooters, sports games, and the occasional WRPG.
Boombloxer
Member
The sad truth is that no one really cares.
Well, I got worried when I saw
then played
but then there's
They've been a mixed bag overall for me. I liked Lost Planet, and then it immediately went off the rails. Enjoyed DMC4, Mega Man 9 and RE5.
I mean, I like GoW too. I do. But its the Uncharted of its genre. Its pretty much on rails and allows very little creativity and freedom to the player pushing the buttons. Its a great game. I just don't like comparing it to the DMCs and Platinum games and Ninja Gaidens because it just doesn't hold up.
Its a mainstreamed Onimusha. Which is great. But its like comparing Mortal Kombat to Guilty Gear.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Mr. Nobody said:
Hated it, ruined everything I liked about the series in one fell swoop.
Tell Platinum to budget better. It sold 1.35m copies and was their highest selling game they had ever developed.
I'll put money the Wii U version won't even reach 1/3 of that. Wii U gamers can't talk shit about PS3/360 gamers when amazing games like Wonderful 101 fail...but watch Mario Kart 8 do stupid numbers.
Some people in here have bad taste.
And some are delusional.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Esco always on blast with this Assassin's Creed stuff
niggas aint gonna never let boring ass AC3 go
niggas aint gonna never let boring ass AC3 go
About what? I never said it or Wonderful 101 were going to sell well.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Gaming already got it's punishment...Wii U.
eh,..W101 was brick bound from inception.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Yea because they put it on Wii U. Shit even a Vita version would have done better numbers. :3
Boombloxer
Member
Not exactly. Fighting games, you are doing 1 thing, period; Action games, combat can be one big area of several--I also liked the puzzles in God of War.
God of War and the rest are in the same genre. If 1 area isn't meant to be as deep, but the other areas dwarf the rest, then that's not a wash for me, that means the total package is better. Being the best-looking doesn't hurt either.
I play the other games knowing that literally nothing I'm going to do is going to be like beating up Kronos. Is it enjoyable? Sure. But not every game needs that depth of combat, if its trying to do more overall.
And this is someone who would gladly take an entire game playing as Vergil in hell, period.
Think so? I liked it, it was Intense.
Poor Kamiya is going to have to cry himself to sleep on his Bayonetta body pillows.
I call bullshit.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I would have got W101 day one if it came out on a video game console.
Like the Coby Kyros?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I hated it, too. NG2 was easily my most disappointing game of 2008. It definitely has its fans tho, which is something you can't say about NG3(maybe my most disappointing game of 2012)
I'm crying on the inside.
Byakuya769
Member
I'm pissed about AC: Liberation. AC1 killed mainline AC for me. Gonna need a killer demo to convince me to bite again.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Angelus Errare
Banned
The only good thing about AC:L was the fact we got a lead black female character.
No BS my dude, I don't think there's been a single Vita game that only did 5k its first week.
That's third world numbers.
No BS my dude, I don't think there's been a single Vita game that only did 5k its first week.
That's third world numbers.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
better question
how is that LP3 looks UGLIER than LP2
Also, flawed as they were, the first two at least had some interesting ideas and mechanics, like the TP energy management or the grapple claw. LP3 is about as generic a TPS you'll find this year...and this is the same year that spawn Army of Two: Devil's Cartel, and Fuse.
Professor Beef
Banned
Esco, how you gonna let Conner act like everyone's bitch in the entirety of AssCreed3?
I never got into LP I played the first one, had no idea what the hell was going on
because capcom has become retarded. its the same reason they decided to end the dino crisis series on 3 and survivor. because they hate money
Vermillion
Banned
Oh, I remembered another reason earlier, but I was headed somewhere - because those girls won't fuck with them.
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